Councillors Claiming expenses - Page 2

garinda · 27-08-2010, 21:06

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

I don't blame hime for saying that - looks like its open season on newbies yet again

Yes, we've all been newbies on here.

Though some were sensible enough to test the water...before diving head first into the shallow end.

Time soon passes though.

It doesn't seem two minutes since everyone was on your newbie back, after complaining about threads wishing people a happy birthday, or well done in their exams.

Give 'em enough time, they soon learn...or get banned, and disappear back into the ether.

Neil · 28-08-2010, 10:45

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Originally Posted by accysimon

MODS>....please delete this thread before it gets full of insults...I just asked for opinion and wanted to open a debate.

The thread does not need to be deleted but if any posts become insultive please report the posts using the red triangle

at the bottom left of the post under the posters name and the moderation team will deal with it appropriately.

SPUGGIE J · 28-08-2010, 10:57

Depends on what age you would consider a mid teenager.

Any tax credits payed would be based on the information given and any wrong info pertaining to them that is wrong could be seen as fraud. Which to anyone in a prominent local role would be a tad silly esp as they are in the public eye.
I would ask if anyone has never taken advantage of rules that they can gain from even in a small way.

If the social services will/are/were involved then it is between them and the parent involved not based on their job.

I also reckon that many teenagers are more "grown up" than many of us were at the same age.

A neighbour could also be on hand to be sure nothing untoward happens in any case.

We deride single parents for not working yet do the same if they are therefore they cannot win.

jaysay · 28-08-2010, 14:24

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J

Depends on what age you would consider a mid teenager.

Any tax credits payed would be based on the information given and any wrong info pertaining to them that is wrong could be seen as fraud. Which to anyone in a prominent local role would be a tad silly esp as they are in the public eye.
I would ask if anyone has never taken advantage of rules that they can gain from even in a small way.

If the social services will/are/were involved then it is between them and the parent involved not based on their job.

I also reckon that many teenagers are more "grown up" than many of us were at the same age.

A neighbour could also be on hand to be sure nothing untoward happens in any case.

We deride single parents for not working yet do the same if they are therefore they cannot win.

Although he never mentioned any names you can bet your bottom dollar he was referring to a Tory, otherwise he wouldn't have started the thread in the first place, that's the type of snide underhand person he seams to be judging from previous posts

Less · 28-08-2010, 14:58

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Originally Posted by Neil

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at the bottom left of the post under the posters name and the moderation team will deal with it appropriately.

I did suggest similar in post #10

katex · 28-08-2010, 15:53

I feel that whichever Councillor is claiming for child care, will have to be all above board, Simon, and hours, etc., accounted for.

I think similar to Spuggie that a child of 15/16 years is quite capable of coming home from school and looking after themselves until the parent arrives home from work. It is sometimes when they are absent in the evening/overnight or longer periods that you need to have someone around to see to their needs.

Perhaps this is where you may have misunderstood the claim ? We really don't know the extent, do we ?

Sorry, don't know anything about tax credits.

Neil · 28-08-2010, 21:39

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Originally Posted by Less

I did suggest similar in post #10

I know you did and thank you for it.

Mine just looks more pretty with the little picture for those that don't know

cashman · 28-08-2010, 21:46

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Originally Posted by Neil

I know you did and thank you for it.

Mine just looks more pretty with the little picture for those that don't know

well yours will look pretty, yer a bonny begger.

garinda · 28-08-2010, 22:18

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Originally Posted by jaysay

...that's the type of snide underhand person he seams to be judging from previous posts

Which isn't at all like labelling someone, who was dealing with the probate of their grandmother's estate, as Accrington's answer to Rachman.

Less · 28-08-2010, 22:25

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Originally Posted by garinda

Rachman.

Are they the people that sell ties at the airports?

garinda · 28-08-2010, 22:28

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Originally Posted by Less

Are they the people that sell ties at the airports?

Yeah man.

accysimon · 29-08-2010, 10:04

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Because snide people never do, they just like to stare it from from a place of anonymity

I'm not snide in anyway, so please don't accuse me of that. I am asking whether the local people approve of councillors, especially one in high office, claiming childcare allowance for a 15 year old, when she doesn't go to a childminder, she stays alone or with friends. It is similar to the MP expenses scandal in my opinion.

accysimon · 29-08-2010, 10:07

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Although he never mentioned any names you can bet your bottom dollar he was referring to a Tory, otherwise he wouldn't have started the thread in the first place, that's the type of snide underhand person he seams to be judging from previous posts

Thanks, for the insult, it was uncalled for. I am trying to raise a serious point about taxpayers money, but you really don't seem to give a toss.

The teenager in question is 15, so I am told, so do they really need childcare?

garinda · 29-08-2010, 10:09

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Originally Posted by accysimon

I'm not snide in anyway, so please don't accuse me of that. I am asking whether the local people approve of councillors, especially one in high office, claiming childcare allowance for a 15 year old, when she doesn't go to a childminder, she stays alone or with friends. It is similar to the MP expenses scandal in my opinion.

Snide I suppose, because you don't name them.

If rules aren't being broken, I see no problem.

If childcare allowances weren't available, it would limit who was able to become a councillor.

If I presume correctly, the councillor you allude to is a single parent.

Which must be a strain, when balancing home life, and public office.

accysimon · 29-08-2010, 10:14

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Originally Posted by garinda

Snide I suppose, because you don't name them.

If rules aren't being broken, I see no problem.

If childcare allowances weren't available, it would limit who was able to become a councillor.

If I presume correctly, the councillor you allude to is a single parent.

Which must be a strain, when balancing home life, and public office.

The debate is, in my opinion, should the expenses be claimed when the 15 yr old is staying with friends, not official childcare, or stays at home alone, as 15 yr olds often do.
Does it matter who the councillor is? He holds high office and already claims enough allowances.