Councillors Claiming expenses - Page 3

jaysay · 29-08-2010, 10:15

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Originally Posted by acts simon

Thanks, for the insult, it was uncalled for. I am trying to raise a serious point about taxpayers money, but you really don't seem to give a toss.

The teenager in question is 15, so I am told, so do they really need childcare?

Seeing your so informed, I ask, by law, what is the age of a child designated as, and as I said if the person in question hand not been a Tory you would never have opened the thread, you are snide , end of

garinda · 29-08-2010, 10:19

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Originally Posted by accysimon

The debate is, in my opinion, should the expenses be claimed when the 15 yr old is staying with friends, not official childcare, or stays at home alone, as 15 yr olds often do.
Does it matter who the councillor is? He holds high office and already claims enough allowances.

If it's a debate about what the rules are regarding eligibility for childcare expenses, why even mention a particular person?

If you really think rules are being broken, you should have the strength of your convictions to name the person, and if you are incorrect, face the consequences when the councillor sues you.

All this smoke and mirror stuff, and veiled hints, is snide.

garinda · 29-08-2010, 10:22

I think you should heed your own advice.

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Originally Posted by accysimon

...there are may Councillors who are fit for purpose, and many who aren't. The only way to sort it out is at the ballot box on election day. No amount of threats, or rumour mongering will force them to resign

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...tml#post405320

SPUGGIE J · 29-08-2010, 10:46

I would rather see someone trying to have an occupation as well as being a single parent. Balancing both must be a nightmare at best hell at worst. The tax credits are there for those willing to do both as it is not always possible to do both on a limited income. There are also limits as to what they can earn before a reduction is applied to the benefit but it is always the following financial year. If income goes up this year its the next award that is affected and it is possible for the household income to be less when the new one comes in. It is a balancing act on a razor blade. It must be hard not to be around when your teenager is at home and the parent is working.

No rules broken then no issue.

accysimon · 29-08-2010, 11:09

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J

I would rather see someone trying to have an occupation as well as being a single parent. Balancing both must be a nightmare at best hell at worst. The tax credits are there for those willing to do both as it is not always possible to do both on a limited income. There are also limits as to what they can earn before a reduction is applied to the benefit but it is always the following financial year. If income goes up this year its the next award that is affected and it is possible for the household income to be less when the new one comes in. It is a balancing act on a razor blade. It must be hard not to be around when your teenager is at home and the parent is working.

No rules broken then no issue.

But why is he claiming allowances that he doesn't need or use?
How many of you will complain when your council tax rises to help cover these expenses??

SPUGGIE J · 29-08-2010, 19:41

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Originally Posted by accysimon

But why is he claiming allowances that he doesn't need or use?
How many of you will complain when your council tax rises to help cover these expenses??

He is entitled to thats why.

Mine wont its frozen.

jaysay · 30-08-2010, 10:07

Having thought about this since yesterday, it appears its another dog and pony show, probably the same dog but a different pony

Less · 30-08-2010, 10:16

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Originally Posted by accysimon

But why is he claiming allowances that he doesn't need or use?

How do you know he doesn't need or use them?

That is either, one heck of an ignorant assumption or, do you have some facts to prove what you claim? If so, please do, PROVE it!

P.S. I notice you have now narrowed it down to a he instead of a he/she, we'll get a name out of you within the next 30 or so pages.

SPUGGIE J · 30-08-2010, 18:40

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Having thought about this since yesterday, it appears its another dog and pony show, probably the same dog but a different pony

Could be the other way round or the dog is on the ponies back facing the wrong way.

Tickler · 01-09-2010, 14:50

you either didnt say or you were not asked HOW do you know they are claiming expenses and where have you got the information from

secondly do you know just how many councillors DONT claim any expenses ???

garinda · 01-09-2010, 15:18

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Originally Posted by Tickler

secondly do you know just how many councillors DONT claim any expenses ???

One.

His Worship, the Mayor.

It could be more, I suppose. As he sometimes posts in the third person.

So in theory we could count him as at least two.

Ken Moss · 01-09-2010, 16:18

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Originally Posted by Tickler

you either didnt say or you were not asked HOW do you know they are claiming expenses and where have you got the information from

secondly do you know just how many councillors DONT claim any expenses ???

All councillors get a basic allowance of just under £4,500 with 60p per mile for council business. The chair of each committee gets an extra £1,500 per committee and these are currently allocated by Peter Britcliffe:

Councillors - Peter Britcliffe

The allowance for Leader of the Council was increased a few years ago to £21,000 and there are also much smaller allowances for other senior positions.

Mayor Malcolm Pritchard is the only councillor not to claim any expenses due to his personal situation. It's not my place to discuss it in depth but it's all perfectly above-board and not something that anyone would decry as irregular.

Less · 01-09-2010, 19:00

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

It's not my place to discuss it in depth but it's all perfectly above-board and not something that anyone would decry as irregular.

Unfortunately, even if every one of you is whiter than white, all that is needed is innuendo from folk like the thread starter, he seems to have a grudge, he hopes he can get others on board by spreading rumour, if I was you I wouldn't even try to justify yourself or others until he dares to name names.

Then you'll know he really is just another bitter, vengeful type of guy.

Less · 01-09-2010, 19:07

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Seeing your so informed, I ask, by law, what is the age of a child designated as, and as I said if the person in question hand not been a Tory you would never have opened the thread, you are snide , end of

Oh well, I didn't read the thread properly, I didn't know it was a Tory, keep going Pal,

(Just read it again Jay, I can't tell the accused is a Tory), perhaps you know something the rest of us need to know?

jaysay · 03-09-2010, 10:41

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Originally Posted by Less

Oh well, I didn't read the thread properly, I didn't know it was a Tory, keep going Pal,

(Just read it again Jay, I can't tell the accused is a Tory), perhaps you know something the rest of us need to know?

Read some of his previous posts Less, that's how I know, I can also remember another chap coming on here and staring a similar thread asking questions about expenses and was answered by a Labour councillor, only to be sussed as a Labour councilor himself trying to stir it