did orwell have a point ? - Page 2

churchfcrules · 07-08-2007, 22:51

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Originally Posted by darwendosser

hitler/ reborn

the one i always find stange is the referance to hitler, if by having everyones dna on record creates a society that through fear of getting caught crimes were not committed would that not be a good thing? and what has that got to do with hitlers national socialism?

also if you have nothing to hide whats the problem

as for the other referance to who does the watching, who watches the watchers?

garinda · 07-08-2007, 22:54

Damn good idea having a national DNA database.

Certainly help with missing child cases.

cashman · 07-08-2007, 22:57

ya just gotta look at rape n murder etc, if everyones DNA was on record it would be a big step forward, cos crimes like rape n sexual offences you cannot erradicate cos they aint wired up right.

darwendosser · 07-08-2007, 23:01

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Originally Posted by cashman

sod off ya ugly git

he was me uncle.pmsl

my be orwell did have a point, but that was what hitler wanted everybody with a tag on them and if we took dna at birth thats what would happen everybody being spied on, ho and im not as ugly as you

churchfcrules · 07-08-2007, 23:04

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Originally Posted by cashman

ya just gotta look at rape n murder etc, if everyones DNA was on record it would be a big step forward, cos crimes like rape n sexual offences you cannot erradicate cos they aint wired up right.

no but removing a certain part (or two) of their anatomy on the town hall steps with a 5lb lump hammer and a rusty chisel, would stop em from doing it again

MargaretR · 07-08-2007, 23:05

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Originally Posted by darwendosser

my be orwell did have a point, but that was what hitler wanted everybody with a tag on them and if we took dna at birth thats what would happen everybody being spied on, ho and im not as ugly as you

LOL - you are both a bit wrinkly but that can give you added charm

garinda · 07-08-2007, 23:05

I'd go one step further than collectiong DNA at birth, I'd practice eugenics on everyone who immediately cried fascist at the mere mention of increased security measures...or at least set up special camps for them up on Darwen moors.

cashman · 07-08-2007, 23:06

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Originally Posted by darwendosser

my be orwell did have a point, but that was what hitler wanted everybody with a tag on them and if we took dna at birth thats what would happen everybody being spied on, ho and im not as ugly as you

you must be a right shifty barsteward if yer worried about a DNA database

please dont burgle me house.

darwendosser · 07-08-2007, 23:08

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Originally Posted by [email protected]

LOL - you are both a bit wrinkly but that can give you added charm

hes's more wrickly than me always has been

cashman · 07-08-2007, 23:08

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Originally Posted by churchfcrules

no but removing a certain part (or two) of their anatomy on the town hall steps with a 5lb lump hammer and a rusty chisel, would stop em from doing it again

agree, but how many get away with these offences now?

churchfcrules · 07-08-2007, 23:12

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Originally Posted by cashman

agree, but how many get away with these offences now?

i think its more a point of how many that do get convicted are repeat offenders, we have prisons but do we use them for punishment or cure?

i have never been to prison, but from what i have read and learned we tend to just use them for punishment

so in the words of the clash hang em high

cashman · 07-08-2007, 23:19

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Originally Posted by churchfcrules

i think its more a point of how many that do get convicted are repeat offenders, we have prisons but do we use them for punishment or cure?

i have never been to prison, but from what i have read and learned we tend to just use them for punishment

so in the words of the clash hang em high

if it was down to me they would never repeat,but i'm related to hitler.

cashman · 07-08-2007, 23:25

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Originally Posted by [email protected]

LOL - you are both a bit wrinkly but that can give you added charm

you certainly know your stuff margaret, i am a catch!

churchfcrules · 07-08-2007, 23:25

hey i read what uncle adolf did to his neice, before he took to power, "come and sit on uncle adolfs knee, pet"

carpon · 07-08-2007, 23:53

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Originally Posted by churchfcrules

i think its more a point of how many that do get convicted are repeat offenders, we have prisons but do we use them for punishment or cure?

The prisons we have are full/overcrowded hence in recent weeks many offenders (albeit minor offenders) have been released.
Then there's the electronic tagging program (which according to a recent documentary) is flawed !!
In my opinion,all the technology available will not stop a determined criminal. But implementing new,effective measures to me now is a must (i.e with terrorism,peadophiles etc)
Also the judicial system needs a good overhaul. The punishment should reflect the crime.