DYKE NOOK, Whalley Road, Accrington - Page 2

Weary Tourist · 16-11-2004, 21:21

Atarah,
I seem to have ended up doing almost a one name study of the surname Rawcliffe in Accrington (amongst several other surnames)

So from 1851 Census
HO107/2250 Folio 318 Page 29 Moor head/John RawcliffeMar/42/Labourer/Ossy (and family)
Next entry is Dyknook and about 19 houses thereafter followed by two houses at Laneside Followed by Moss Hall and that's it

Other entries within Dyknook which may be of interest include :-
HO107/2250 Folio 318 Page 31/Dyknook/Robert Barnes/Mar/49/General Dealer/born Clayton-le-Moors (plus his family)
HO107/2250 Folio 319 Page 31/Dyknook/James Rawcliffe/Mar/35/Labourer/Church (plus family)
HO107/2250 Folio 321 Page 34/Dyknook/Abram Pilkington/Mar/38/Labourer/Altham (plus family)
HO107/2250 Folio 321 Page 35/Dyknook/Joseph Barnes/Mar/40/Drysalter and farmer ? acres/Clayton-le-Moors (plus family)

Atarah · 17-11-2004, 09:56

Hi, what christian names are "yours"

Atarah

MutinousMuse2 · 19-11-2004, 00:12

Hi weary tourist ..
There was a house called Laneside Veiw on Laneside, off whalley Road, owned by Peter Walker, but this wasnt the house called Whinside which was on Whalley Road. Whinside was a Home for the Elderly when i left 12 years ago, but had previously been owned by Gerry Jardine a business man in Accrington for years, before he retired. He had a Fancy Goods store on Little Blackburn Road. But Hey!! so much can change in a short time.
I have neglected to respond to so much interesting reading here this week ~ work takes up too much time and the days just arent long enough!
I moved from Oswaldtwislte to North Carolina almost 12 years ago, and dont get back to the area much. But its like we never left when i hear you all talking about these places and the historical connections that emerge from them.

Regards,
Karen

barnsie · 15-01-2006, 04:53

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Originally Posted by Atarah

Hi Barnsie, where do you live exactly? Who is/was a Mr Barnes, related to the same family as you, calling himself, Mr Walton E Barnes and who lived at the house we know at Whinside, near the little Crown on Whalley Road. Apparently there is a very old photograph owned by this chappie showing the area known as Lower Dyke Nook showing a Barnes family. maybe this is where your ancestors lived? This family home belonged to Joseph Barnes, drysalter, cochineal and madder grinder, specialising in turkey red dyeing.

Are you aware of Kenyons, Bridges, Cunliffes being names on your family tree?

Hi there Atarah and folk,
I have just rejoined the Group after my father's death and on a happier note, the birth of three beautiful grandchildren this past 2005. As well, my computer crashed twice, October5 2004 and March 2005 and I lost many contacts including this one. I am now on the road to discovering more about my Accrington forebears, including Joseph Barnes (above) and many others.

I live in Australia, so no visits for me to see Abbey St., Dyke Nook, Plantation Rd., Whalley Rd., Owl Hall, etc. just these wonderful stories from yourselves about the Accrington area. I might add, some of my lot are buried in St. James Altham. But to find which Barnes belongs to who, is an endless task.

barnsie · 15-01-2006, 05:01

Sorry, to answer part of your question, my Jonathon Barnes (1849-1927) lived in Whinside, I'm not sure if his son did also, however, I would think so. His son was called Alec Walton Barnes (1882-1950), so probably Walton E. Barnes, who I don't have on my family tree, was descended from Alec.

This is so interesting, please more........

Cheers,

Barnsie
Australia

barnsie · 15-01-2006, 06:02

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Originally Posted by Weary Tourist

Atarah,
I seem to have ended up doing almost a one name study of the surname Rawcliffe in Accrington (amongst several other surnames)

So from 1851 Census
HO107/2250 Folio 318 Page 29 Moor head/John RawcliffeMar/42/Labourer/Ossy (and family)
Next entry is Dyknook and about 19 houses thereafter followed by two houses at Laneside Followed by Moss Hall and that's it

Other entries within Dyknook which may be of interest include :-
HO107/2250 Folio 318 Page 31/Dyknook/Robert Barnes/Mar/49/General Dealer/born Clayton-le-Moors (plus his family)
HO107/2250 Folio 319 Page 31/Dyknook/James Rawcliffe/Mar/35/Labourer/Church (plus family)
HO107/2250 Folio 321 Page 34/Dyknook/Abram Pilkington/Mar/38/Labourer/Altham (plus family)
HO107/2250 Folio 321 Page 35/Dyknook/Joseph Barnes/Mar/40/Drysalter and farmer ? acres/Clayton-le-Moors (plus family)

Hi there,
Just to confirm, Robert and Joseph Barnes (above) are brothers.

garinda · 16-01-2006, 18:51

Really fasinating thread. Did Gerturde Jeykll come to Accrington herself to design the gardens, does anyone know?

barnsie · 16-01-2006, 23:55

I don't know, but from what this thread is saying, I find it just heartbreaking to think of these wonderful mansions and gardens totally lost for all time. What stories they could have told, what memories they would have evoked......and have stored forever. Perhaps I'm too much of a romantic dreamer. But if only.................
Fortunately, I have been able to purchase a few Wills of the 19th century for my Barnes families, which has given me a small insight into their lifestyles, the rich and poor alike in Accrington.

garinda · 17-01-2006, 00:05

Gertrude Jeykll was probably the most influential garden designer of the twentieth century. She is most famously associated with working with Sir Edward Landseer Lutyens. It's a real coup she designed a garden in Accrington. Does any of her original design survive I wonder?

junetta · 17-01-2006, 00:08

It's a wonderful thread, Rindy. As you know, I'm well into Family History and it would be good if AccyWeb made more of it. I've hit a brick wall with my Yates, Martins, Hamers, Brindles.................not that I'm hinting!

Seriously, if we all got together, I'm sure it would be a good topic.

garinda · 17-01-2006, 00:26

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Originally Posted by junetta

It's a wonderful thread, Rindy. As you know, I'm well into Family History and it would be good if AccyWeb made more of it. I've hit a brick wall with my Yates, Martins, Hamers, Brindles.................not that I'm hinting!

Seriously, if we all got together, I'm sure it would be a good topic.

You got Martin's? We came to Lancashire from Cumberland around 1820.

We'll have to compare notes. I may have to call you cousin Junetta, and will then qualify for free holidays to Tenerife.

junetta · 17-01-2006, 00:41

I was a Martin! I don't think there is a connection though as my great grandfather, Robert Martin, was born in Soham, Cambs in 1875. He was a journeyman by trade and moved to Rawtenstall around the turn of the century. He died in Accrington aged around 92, the Plantation Street area, I think. I remember him being part of the family when I was a child as well as attending his ninetieth birthday celebrations. Unfortunately, he didn't manage to outlive Churchill, his great ambition. Bless him!!

I reckon your holiday just went out the window!

WillowTheWhisp · 17-01-2006, 08:43

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Originally Posted by barnsie

I live in Australia, so no visits for me to see Abbey St., Dyke Nook, Plantation Rd., Whalley Rd., Owl Hall, etc. just these wonderful stories from yourselves about the Accrington area. I might add, some of my lot are buried in St. James Altham. But to find which Barnes belongs to who, is an endless task.

Hi Barnsie, If there's anythig you'd like us to photograph for you just give us a shout because I'm sure those of us with cameras would be only too happy to get out there and snap a few shots for you.

As a child I used to love Owl Hall and wished I could live there. It was up for sale some years ago but we weren't in a position to be able to afford to buy it.

cmee · 18-02-2007, 09:57

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Originally Posted by garinda

Gertrude Jeykll was probably the most influential garden designer of the twentieth century. She is most famously associated with working with Sir Edward Landseer Lutyens. It's a real coup she designed a garden in Accrington. Does any of her original design survive I wonder?

Have just seen this, a year after it was posted.... I helped to start this thread, way back..... My grandparents built Dyke Nook Lodge and employed Gertrude Jekyll to design the garden. I don't know if she visited it, but yes there are published plans (Tooley, M. and R., Gardens of Gertrude Jekyll in Northern England 1982; and Tooley, M.J. in Garden History Vol 8, No. 3 1980). Nothing remains today as far as I know, but my 92-year old mother (with her twin sister the youngest of the 8 Blake children) played in that garden as a child. She remembers Dyke Nook Lodge with enormous affection.
Incidentally, the house was built by the architect Walter Brierley, who also built the Art Gallery - which explains the similarity in the windows.
Does anyone know if the house has been restored - it was in the process when I last saw it, but I got the impression work had ground to a halt. I hope not!

barnsie · 18-02-2007, 12:16

My current endeavour is to try and prove my BARNES's and JONATHON BARNES (1779-1866) and ISABELLA ANN nee SANDERSON (1773-1857) are part of the same family.
They lived most of their married life in Chapel St. Accrington. He was a Calico Printer for a time, then worked in an Inn in town. They had nine children. Some of this family are buried with my lot at St. James Altham, but not Jonathan and Isabella, I think they must be buried in the Christ Church, Accrington cemetery. If anyone is near there and could have a look for them it would be fantastic. I have seen a picture of the Church on the web, but not their burial place........