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Old 06-11-2007, 17:01   #1
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Hambledon Hill and Quarry

Hiya i work for the Chelmswood estate, which inturn is owned by the Kingwilkinson Family estate. The Estate is planning to claim and re-generate Hambledon quarry and Part of Hambledon hill for the public. Does anybody on here live close to this area who would be willing to check up on the site monthly and be a key holder.
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check up on the site monthly and be a key holder.
Is that on a voluntary basis or as employment? What exactly would 'check up on' entail?
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Old 06-11-2007, 17:28   #3
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By check up we mean just ensuring that the gates to the site are locked throughought the re generation work for health and safety purposes and generally reporting back to the estate manager, and yes unfortunately it would only be on a voluntary basis.
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Forgive me if I'm seeming a little pedantic but how would checking up on it monthly ensure that the gates were locked throughout the regeneration? Surely the regenerators would be the ones to ensure that the gates are locked?
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sorry i have said it wrong, under britich law and the law of adverse possesion we are required to use the site for 12 months prior to starting work and it would be for the first 12 month that we would require a volunteer.
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sorry i have said it wrong, under britich law and the law of adverse possesion we are required to use the site for 12 months prior to starting work and it would be for the first 12 month that we would require a volunteer.
I like that word, Adverse Possession.
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I like that word, Adverse Possession.
It's 2 words.
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It's 2 words.
Here are a lot more words
Adverse possession - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 06-11-2007, 17:54   #9
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Hiya i work for the Chelmswood estate, which inturn is owned by the Kingwilkinson Family estate. The Estate is planning to claim and re-generate Hambledon quarry and Part of Hambledon hill for the public. Does anybody on here live close to this area who would be willing to check up on the site for the first 12 months before re-generation begins and be a key holder.
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sorry i have said it wrong, under britich law and the law of adverse possesion we are required to use the site for 12 months prior to starting work and it would be for the first 12 month that we would require a volunteer.

So, if you are using the site you should be checking yourself - maybe better if you defined "using"

and for the sake of argument I live very close and go walking up there fairly regularly,

You need to define what the responsibilties would be and what the legal status of the keyholder is, say if statutory bodies, or Police etc want access to that land
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Old 06-11-2007, 17:58   #11
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So, if you are using the site you should be checking yourself - maybe better if you defined "using"

and for the sake of argument I live very close and go walking up there fairly regularly,

You need to define what the responsibilties would be and what the legal status of the keyholder is, say if statutory bodies, or Police etc want access to that land
By using the land we mean occupying it for the required 12 months before work can begin, we have checked the details of the site with the Land registry and it is currently unregistered so anybody claiming to be the owner would have to proove it by showing deeds ect.

The person would be responsible for just checking the gate monthly and reporting back to the estate manager, Lancashire constabulary will be issued with a key as they are with all of our claim and so any other emergency service responding to the site will be assited by the police and so you would have no responsibility there.

Can i just ask, as you walk there often what you thin of the site at present and the state of the site and whether you think that a re-generation programme would be a good idea?
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So, what you are basically saying is that you want to squat and block off access to the land by anyone else, including the rightful owner, for 12 months so that you can stake a claim to it and then start some work? Is that about it?
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Old 06-11-2007, 18:02   #13
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Seems a bit odd to me, lol...
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Perhaps the key could be left under a stone, and people could take turns.
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Old 06-11-2007, 18:04   #15
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Well yes in its simplest terms, except there is no recorded or traceable owner and this is the method employed in all of our other projects which has seen vast ammounts of land designated as public common land and donated to local communities.
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