Hang 'em High ... - Page 2

mobertol · 23-09-2011, 14:04

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Originally Posted by garinda

People make mistakes.

It's human nature.

Here, here. That includes those who commit crimes - non of us are perfect and I for one would never throw the first stone.
You don't right one wrong by repeating the same action. A civilised society should not follow the "Eye for an eye" philosophy -there are people who have talked in various threads against the application af Shariah Law in certain countries -I wonder if they are the same ones who then call for the return of Capital Punishment. God forbid!

DaveinGermany · 23-09-2011, 17:08

Having read the article Guy Paul Morin, this happened back in 1984 & it was developments especially in DNA that secured his release & acquittal in 1995. So from that viewpoint we are now in 2011 DNA matching along with other bettered forensic techniques & video evidence are pretty effective in ascertaining guilt/non guilt that we can agree on.

So with this in mind a fairly strong case can be presented allowing for a cast iron decision for or against. Should the crime involve a pre meditated murder or someone armed having every intention of using a weapon in their illegal activities these are the kind of people the "Hanging verdict" should be applied to.

"The Death sentence is not a deterrent" I beg to differ, Singapore as an example, the Death sentence is on the statutes & is used effectively within a short period of time so reinforcing the, severity of punishment in relation to the crime so people think twice. The States on the other hand drag the whole legal process out over years & years so reducing the "Shock & awe" swift retribution effect so isn't readily seen as a deterrent.

Had A hanging verdict been available in UK & the will to use it perhaps some of the following incidents wouldn't have happened :-

Police killer caught on London jaunts - Telegraph

Police hunt missing killer as woman's body is discovered | UK news | The Guardian

BBC News | UK | Freed killer murders again

Stumped · 23-09-2011, 17:31

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Originally Posted by walkinman221

Good we wouldnt want you going blue or keeling over eric

Having a said that we have gone to the polar opposite of this. In the paper today i read that a paedophile went to court because he couldnt walk in public parks where CHILDREN play, he claimed it breached his human rights and he won the case

Were I in the park with my grandchildren and this pervert came anywhere near, it would be the last WALK it ever took in it's current state of health. Though the judgement probably says more about the judge than the paedophile.

jaysay · 23-09-2011, 17:37

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Originally Posted by Stumped

Were I in the park with my grandchildren and this pervert came anywhere near, it would be the last WALK it ever took in it's current state of health.

Ya think that's about right Stumped, since when have deviants like that have human rights in the first place, to have rights you need to be human in the first place, these people are worse than animals

Eric · 23-09-2011, 19:12

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Having read the article Guy Paul Morin, this happened back in 1984 & it was developments especially in DNA that secured his release & acquittal in 1995. So from that viewpoint we are now in 2011 DNA matching along with other bettered forensic techniques & video evidence are pretty effective in ascertaining guilt/non guilt that we can agree on.

So with this in mind a fairly strong case can be presented allowing for a cast iron decision for or against. Should the crime involve a pre meditated murder or someone armed having every intention of using a weapon in their illegal activities these are the kind of people the "Hanging verdict" should be applied to.

"The Death sentence is not a deterrent" I beg to differ, Singapore as an example, the Death sentence is on the statutes & is used effectively within a short period of time so reinforcing the, severity of punishment in relation to the crime so people think twice. The States on the other hand drag the whole legal process out over years & years so reducing the "Shock & awe" swift retribution effect so isn't readily seen as a deterrent.

Had A hanging verdict been available in UK & the will to use it perhaps some of the following incidents wouldn't have happened :-

Police killer caught on London jaunts - Telegraph

Police hunt missing killer as woman's body is discovered | UK news | The Guardian

BBC News | UK | Freed killer murders again

Take a look at the big picture:

Murders drop to lowest level for 20 years in England and Wales | UK news | The Guardian

Oh, and in 2010 in the good old US of A, where the death penalty is used as a deterrent, there were 14,748 murders. If the deterrent is working in the States, how many of each other would the bloodthirsty bastards kill if there were no death penalty.