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14-01-2009, 11:09
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Have a Flutter
I have just purchased a new medical devise called a Flutter, which is designed for people with chronic chest problems, in as much as it helps loosen mucus from the lungs. Developed mainly for people with cystic fibrosis, exacerbate asthma and chronic bronchitis, who can't stand rigorous physiotherapy, its a drug free way of clearing the breathing tubes. Its just like a smoker pipe only with the ball at around a 45 degree angle and blocked of end with holes in, inside Te ball is a steel ball bearing. It works by taking breaths in then blowing into the "pipe" which causes fluttering sensation which transfers back down the lungs an shakes the mucus free, and it does work. If anyone is interested they cost £39 are produced by Clement Clark International. Just Google flutter ad its the first site on the first page, the firm I deal with is Evergreen from Wigan, who are also good for Nebulizers and servicing nebulizers, plus accessories too
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14-01-2009, 12:08
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Re: Have a Flutter
ooo that sounds interesting Jay, did the doc tell you about it or did you hear about it somewhere else?
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14-01-2009, 12:23
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Re: Have a Flutter
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ooo that sounds interesting Jay, did the doc tell you about it or did you hear about it somewhere else?
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The Community Matron told me last week, I've been having a few probs lately and she popped in to see me and just mentioned it, but they are recommended by doctors flashy too, and it really does work, I don't know how, but its incredible the result you get with it, at the moment I'm here happily coughing away to myself
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14-01-2009, 12:29
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Re: Have a Flutter
my chest isnt that bad at the moment, my mate's hubby has awfully bad asthma though, i will tell her about this, he's on oxygen at the moment and has been in and out of hospital a lot in the last year
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14-01-2009, 17:04
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Re: Have a Flutter
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my chest isnt that bad at the moment, my mate's hubby has awfully bad asthma though, i will tell her about this, he's on oxygen at the moment and has been in and out of hospital a lot in the last year
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Seems like he has COPD like myself in which case it will help
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14-01-2009, 19:30
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Re: Have a Flutter
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Originally Posted by jaysay
I have just purchased a new medical devise called a Flutter, which is designed for people with chronic chest problems, in as much as it helps loosen mucus from the lungs. Developed mainly for people with cystic fibrosis, exacerbate asthma and chronic bronchitis, who can't stand rigorous physiotherapy, its a drug free way of clearing the breathing tubes. Its just like a smoker pipe only with the ball at around a 45 degree angle and blocked of end with holes in, inside Te ball is a steel ball bearing. It works by taking breaths in then blowing into the "pipe" which causes fluttering sensation which transfers back down the lungs an shakes the mucus free, and it does work. If anyone is interested they cost £39 are produced by Clement Clark International. Just Google flutter ad its the first site on the first page, the firm I deal with is Evergreen from Wigan, who are also good for Nebulizers and servicing nebulizers, plus accessories too
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Great to hear you have found something that helps you out ... and better still, that it doesn't involve massive amounts of drugs whose side effects are almost as bad, if not worse than the condition they are designed to cure ...
As an afterthought, are you going to make a comment about Flashy's chest; or should I .... Maybe it would be safer if I mentioned things like a wobble test .... after all, with thousands of km of ocean between us, it should be me
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15-01-2009, 11:34
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Re: Have a Flutter
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Great to hear you have found something that helps you out ... and better still, that it doesn't involve massive amounts of drugs whose side effects are almost as bad, if not worse than the condition they are designed to cure ...
As an afterthought, are you going to make a comment about Flashy's chest; or should I .... Maybe it would be safer if I mentioned things like a wobble test .... after all, with thousands of km of ocean between us, it should be me
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Yea Eric seems sensible suggestion to me, because I daren't I'm a coward
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15-01-2009, 14:35
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Re: Have a Flutter
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Originally Posted by Eric
Great to hear you have found something that helps you out ... and better still, that it doesn't involve massive amounts of drugs whose side effects are almost as bad, if not worse than the condition they are designed to cure ...
As an afterthought, are you going to make a comment about Flashy's chest; or should I .... Maybe it would be safer if I mentioned things like a wobble test .... after all, with thousands of km of ocean between us, it should be me
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Not Flashy's chest again, hoody blell.
If I comment I'm for it.
Still in hiding from last time.
Retlaw.
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15-01-2009, 16:32
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Re: Have a Flutter
I have been suffering from 'breathlessness on exertion' for a year now.
Doc did ECG and blood tests and said they were all 'normal'.
A chest xray showed early signs of COPD(emphysema) but not bad enough to warrant medication.
He supplied an inhaler anyway saying he was bending the rules, and it would 'halt progress of COPD'.
My websearching found a medical study done in India where that inhaler increased risk of heart disease and stroke by 40%.
So that got binned sharpish
(I am in better nick than Amy Winehouse - who isn't?)
When considering whether a blood test result is 'normal', the Nhs is often years behind the latest research.
My serum B12 level is normal by our Nhs standards but would be considered dangerous by the Japanese and in several other countries.
I began a regime of food supplements with special reliance on vitamin B12.
My breathlessness has reduced by 50% in a few months, and I 'move faster' and the improvement continues.
So I can say from personal experience that breathlessness is not caused solely by lung disease.
I now take no prescription drugs whatsoever - not even paracetemol - Zantak(Ranitidine) contributed to my B12 deficiency - that got binned too
Anything that doesn't involve drugs I would try - looks like that machine is ideal if I get bad enough to need it.
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15-01-2009, 17:26
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Re: Have a Flutter
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Originally Posted by MargaretR
I have been suffering from 'breathlessness on exertion' for a year now.
Doc did ECG and blood tests and said they were all 'normal'.
A chest x ray showed early signs of COPD(emphysema) but not bad enough to warrant medication.
He supplied an inhaler anyway saying he was bending the rules, and it would 'halt progress of COPD'.
My websearching found a medical study done in India where that inhaler increased risk of heart disease and stroke by 40%.
So that got binned sharpish
(I am in better nick than Amy Winehouse - who isn't?)
When considering whether a blood test result is 'normal', the Nhs is often years behind the latest research.
My serum B12 level is normal by our Nhs standards but would be considered dangerous by the Japanese and in several other countries.
I began a regime of food supplements with special reliance on vitamin B12.
My breathlessness has reduced by 50% in a few months, and I 'move faster' and the improvement continues.
So I can say from personal experience that breathlessness is not caused solely by lung disease.
I now take no prescription drugs whatsoever - not even paracetemol - Zantak(Ranitidine) contributed to my B12 deficiency - that got binned too
Anything that doesn't involve drugs I would try - looks like that machine is ideal if I get bad enough to need it.
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I agree with most of what you say Margaret, especially with the food and eating properly (or the right things) I once went to an alternative therapist in Whalley, who tested me for allergies to everything from cats and dogs to tree pollen, dairy foods, meat and fish, then put me on a diet of the things I could tolerate and within six weeks my breathing had improved by about 30%, but now it has little or no effect although I do keep away from certain foods and materials which affect my breathing, things sch as perfume, tree pollen sea food and some dairy products
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15-01-2009, 22:21
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Re: Have a Flutter
Jay, i spoke to my mate earlier and her husband does have COPD but he is on some sort of tablets for it at the moment
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16-01-2009, 11:30
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Re: Have a Flutter
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Jay, i spoke to my mate earlier and her husband does have COPD but he is on some sort of tablets for it at the moment
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Well, ya flashy I would think he is, I take 8 different tablets every day in conjunction with my treatment for COPD, together with three nebulized drugs up to 6 times a day as well, this device is meant to assist with the treatment,
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