Hedgehogs

[Less]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Don't fancy hedgehog, but on the Leyland/Southport back road a couple of days ago a herd of red deer ran out right in front of us! I didn't have time to accelerate and if Neil struggled with a magpie imagine getting a red deer out of your grill! But venison!! It might have been worth it.

Nowt wrong wi' hedgehog, comes with it's own toothpicks!

[cashman]

Less i got done fer 36 mph, a couple of years ago, paid the fine, got 3 pts (only ones i ever had) but me insurance never went up.

[steeljack]

Less , you may want to check if this place has a local UK branch/link ...

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[jaysay]

I only ever got pulled for speeding once, was back in the seventies in a works van on the duel carriageway going into Chorley, thought it was a 40 was doing 36, I mentioned it to a workmate when I got back to base, he advised me to write a groveling letter to the chief constable at Chorley, which I did, I said I had a clean licence and on this occasion was a little late for a job fitting a shop out (which incidentally was opposite the nick in Chorley) about 10 days later I got a reply saying that on this occasion no further action would be taken but the incident would remain on the file and could be used in any other road traffic incident I may be involved in, it never was and is unlikely it will ever I stopped driving 16 years ago for medical reasons

[Studio25]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

...If you take the course you aren't done for speeding so you save on insurance( I think it cost me an extra £30-£40 year) so overall it's the better, cheaper option.

I hadn't thought of that! I was going to advise Less to take the points and the fixed penalty, which is the route I wish I'd taken. The course costs more than the points and the half day off just adds to the misery. I can now see how (in the long run) it's probably cheaper to take the course.

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

However, I believe they treat you like a very naughty, very small child-amongst other things you have to stand up and confess your wickedness and sins to the group and tell them how you have learnt to repent.

Not my experience of the course that runs in Leyland - The only pretentious bit is in the classroom where they stress that they don't use the word "accident" because only a tiny fraction of incidents are true accidents. If the root cause of an incident is alcohol, or excessive speed, or distraction, or tiredness, or whatever - it's avoidable, so it's no longer an accident but a crash. They give you a bunch of statistics, they show a few slides of vehicle carnage.

In the car, "offenders" are paired up and given a refresher that's similar to current lesson/test. Let's face it, they can't spend three or four hours asking, "What is the speed limit here, and what speed do you think you're doing?" They also ask you on a three or four minute run to talk continuously describing the potential hazards and how you're preparing for the possibility that they become a hazard.