Identity Cards

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

Your DNA can mutate
Mitochondrial DNA - Genetics Home Reference

Yeah, right, say thank you to those little green men next time they beam you up and give you a right good probing.

[BERNADETTE]

Originally Posted by jaysay

I got the Letter too Bernie, it is now filed safely in my recycling white sack

Well if an ID card at £30 will be ok for where I am likely to visit why pay £90 for a passport? As I said I have no problem with the concept of ID cards in fact they could be good for the country IMHO.

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

Well if an ID card at £30 will be ok for where I am likely to visit why pay £90 for a passport? As I said I have no problem with the concept of ID cards in fact they could be good for the country IMHO.

'good for the country' is a phrase often churned out by governments.
It implies sacrificing civil liberties for the 'benefit of the nation'.

This may appear noble to those who have absolute trust in those who govern you, but I don't. I see it as intrusive and just another step towards the absolute control of the population as in '1984'.

[BERNADETTE]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

'good for the country' is a phrase often churned out by governments.
It implies sacrificing civil liberties for the 'benefit of the nation'.

This may appear noble to those who have absolute trust in those who govern you, but I don't. I see it as intrusive and just another step towards the absolute control of the population as in '1984'.

"good for the country" is my thought, it works in other countries so why not here? Anyway it is not mandatory to have them but from my point of view if I can save £60 it isn't a bad thing

[Barrie Yates]

I have lived with ID cards for most of my adult life - and a portion of my childhood. ID card in the RAF for 18 years, ID card when working on State Prison Systems in the USA, ID Card for 17 years in Saudi Arabia.
There is nothing wrong with the priciple of ID cards, just the information they contain. TB & GB, our dear leaders, want too much on there - Name, photograph, place & date of birth, nationality, blood group, fingerprints/iris scan, should be adequate and I have no objection to that information being placed on/in an ID Card.

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

I have lived with ID cards for most of my adult life - and a portion of my childhood. ID card in the RAF for 18 years, ID card when working on State Prison Systems in the USA, ID Card for 17 years in Saudi Arabia.
There is nothing wrong with the priciple of ID cards, just the information they contain. TB & GB, our dear leaders, want too much on there - Name, photograph, place & date of birth, nationality, blood group, fingerprints/iris scan, should be adequate and I have no objection to that information being placed on/in an ID Card.

The principle is fine with me too - name, age, photo, nationality - which is what an old style passport is.

BUT with the RFID chipped passports and ID cards- how will you know what is on it? - do you believe you will be told the truth if you ask?

[yerself]

Have a look at these two pages for information about the new passports and ID cards

What are biometric passports? : Directgov - Travel and transport

Identity cards: an introduction : Directgov - Government, citizens and rights

[Neil]

Originally Posted by yerself

What are biometric passports? : Directgov - Travel and transport

So passports are already a form of RFID

[katex]

Well at least you can get through passport control quicker with the chipped passports. Proves, without a doubt, that is me in the passport.

I have no problem with ID cards either ... will stop those supermarket check out lads, who think it is funny to ask me if I am over 21, when buying my carton of wine.

[DaveinGermany]

I have carried a form of ID card for most of my Adult life, they are easily carried, can verify who you are to those who need to know with half a dozen valid points & without any further intrusion into your private sphere.

I believe most European countries have them for their citizens & functions well enough. Further to that with your card being recorded & issued through a central registry false cards are quickly & easily picked up, thereby identifying illegal immigrants.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by katex

Well at least you can get through passport control quicker with the chipped passports. Proves, without a doubt, that is me in the passport.------------------------------------ no ya can't kate, yer supposed to get through quicker but its bull, the seperate place ya can use yer new passport has NOT worked since introduced, least every time i have returned to manchester airport, so far = load of cash spent fer no return.

I have no problem with ID cards either ... will stop those supermarket check out lads, who think it is funny to ask me if I am over 21, when buying my carton of wine.

i have no problem at all with these cards, had a residencia card when i lived in spain. easy to carry n effective i found until ya try to use em in england.

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by katex

Well at least you can get through passport control quicker with the chipped passports. Proves, without a doubt, that is me in the passport.

I have no problem with ID cards either ... will stop those supermarket check out lads, who think it is funny to ask me if I am over 21, when buying my carton of wine.

The short-sighted ones?

[grannyclaret]

Originally Posted by cashman

bet ya aint changed a bit granny.

well i didnt have any teeth then ,and i dont have any now,,,,,,

[Retlaw]

Originally Posted by katex

I have no problem with ID cards either ... will stop those supermarket check out lads, who think it is funny to ask me if I am over 21, when buying my carton of wine.

I'm not saying owt, just lauging my head off.
Mirror mirror on the wall.

Retlaw

[garinda]

Originally Posted by grannyclaret

I still have my identity card issued in 1941,,,,,lol

Just don't try squeezing into your gas mask.