is Christianity a force for good? - Page 7

Guinness · 28-12-2013, 23:12

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Originally Posted by kestrelx

Put it this way, if there were higher intelligences or Aliens and they witnessed what we get up to at Christmas they would think us insane!

Adults buying presents for their children in the name of some Fantasy character called Santa Claus - who comes down chimney's to give the gifts. "Oh but don't tell the kids he doesn't really exist!" Lol Then men in frocks giving sermons about another fantasy chracter called Jesus Christ - who died on a cross for our sins and wasn't really born on this day that this funny fat geezer with a beard brings prezzies on a sledge pulled by Reindeer and puts em down chimney's! Now think again - are the human race really intelligent? Is lying to Children about some fantasy character - a force for good?

Higher intelligences would no doubt understand the concept of 'innocence', higher intelligences on this planet can also embrace this concept. However I really doubt they would understand the concept of a post-innocent that puts himself and other 'innocents' at risk by driving through the lake district under the influence of mind altering substances and publicly boasting about it, because the higher intelligences on this planet can't quite figure it out either!

dotti34 · 29-12-2013, 02:31

This deviates a little from the original concept of the thread, but I have to pick up on a comment made by kestrelx re children and that fat old gentleman.
What is wrong with children living in a fantasy world for as long as they can? Do you have a problem with this? Did you yourself not enjoy a happy childhood full of imagination and wonder? Children grow up quickly enough and too soon have to enter the real world – and what sort of real world is there out there for them? Not that great at times.
Let them be children for their childhood years. Let them believe in magic and fairytales. Watch the joyful anticipation on their faces on Christmas morning as they ask ‘has he been?’ Then tell me again that this is wrong.
Bless all the millions of children who, through circumstances that are quite often man-made, are not able to share this joy, be thankful that ours can.

cashman · 29-12-2013, 08:45

Ah but you only think that way,cos yer a normal person dotti,

jaysay · 29-12-2013, 09:56

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Originally Posted by cashman

Ah but you only think that way,cos yer a normal person dotti,

ya also have to remember that Kessy is a clown too cashy

dotti34 · 29-12-2013, 10:34

Thanks, Cashman, for those kind words - though some folks I know think that's debatable...

Restless · 30-12-2013, 17:09

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Originally Posted by dotti34

What is wrong with children living in a fantasy world for as long as they can? Do you have a problem with this?

at 36 years old- I still live in a fantasy world.

jaysay · 30-12-2013, 18:19

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Originally Posted by Restless

at 36 years old- I still live in a fantasy world.

So do I and I'm 67

dotti34 · 30-12-2013, 20:38

I'm back in it!!! Think it's called being in my second childhood - or maybe, in my case, a third......

Eric · 31-12-2013, 03:41

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Originally Posted by jaysay

So do I and I'm 67

So do I and I'm 68 ...

Less · 31-12-2013, 09:43

So do I and I'm a tribble.

kestrelx · 01-01-2014, 13:50

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Originally Posted by Guinness

Higher intelligences would no doubt understand the concept of 'innocence', higher intelligences on this planet can also embrace this concept. However I really doubt they would understand the concept of a post-innocent that puts himself and other 'innocents' at risk by driving through the lake district under the influence of mind altering substances and publicly boasting about it, because the higher intelligences on this planet can't quite figure it out either!

That's were you get it wrong! I was a higher intelligence safely in control of a vehicle! I put no one at risk!

kestrelx · 01-01-2014, 13:58

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Originally Posted by dotti34

This deviates a little from the original concept of the thread, but I have to pick up on a comment made by kestrelx re children and that fat old gentleman.
What is wrong with children living in a fantasy world for as long as they can? Do you have a problem with this? Did you yourself not enjoy a happy childhood full of imagination and wonder? Children grow up quickly enough and too soon have to enter the real world – and what sort of real world is there out there for them? Not that great at times.
Let them be children for their childhood years. Let them believe in magic and fairytales. Watch the joyful anticipation on their faces on Christmas morning as they ask ‘has he been?’ Then tell me again that this is wrong.
Bless all the millions of children who, through circumstances that are quite often man-made, are not able to share this joy, be thankful that ours can.

I know exactly what you are talking about don't worry about that! If you can't see the hypocrisy of the whole thing then you have problems; in my view. If you scratch the surface you will find most adults - are living in some kind of fantasy about the world and reality! But on the outside look like adults but in the inside have childish motivations for living.

Yes I remember the excitement of being a child and the hole "Hoo ha!" about Santa Claus bringing presents - your sort of grow out of it.

But my issue is how all these "customs" and "religious beliefs" are rooted in child hood fantasy. For example a lot of Muslims believe if they do violent acts they will end up in heaven! Now how childish is that? Christians also believe they will end up in heaven - through Jesus Christ and so on!