Isnt this Rascist ? - Page 3

garinda · 11-09-2008, 00:36

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Originally Posted by cashman

rindy mate yer arguing with a apprentice " Darrener"

I'm not arguing with anyone.

Mainly because I'm right.

blazey · 11-09-2008, 00:37

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Originally Posted by garinda

Just as it is for the vast majority of black, Muslim, gay, disabled, or whatever, who don't wish to alienate themselves from mainstream society, and are quite happy with their place in the larger world.

Yes of course, but the media manipulates all these things you are pointing out. I'm not talking in general, I'm talking in response to mthead's posts in general when he has highlighted particular things.

I can't solve racism, but for myself it isn't a problem because I don't let it be one. I just think it is a shame that there are people that are victims of crime and then feel hatred towards an entire group of people. Race crimes can happen to anyone whatever race their from, but the real injury is to society because it sparks more hatred for each other.

The world is just a horrible place I guess.

keetah992000 · 11-09-2008, 00:38

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

What you are talking about Keetah isn't racism, it's common sense, but having a 'black police' ORGANISATION or a black anything organisation IS racist.

Interestingly, according to a militant black guy on TV the other day it would appear that, pale as I am, I am in fact a black person due to my ancestry. I wonder if I would be permitted to join one of these exclusivly black organisations.

so then why is it okay for companies to employ only women or men
or for companies to deem only a fully able person to be able to do a job ?

blazey · 11-09-2008, 00:38

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Originally Posted by cashman

rindy mate yer arguing with a apprentice " Darrener"

Who is that then?

And Rindy why does anyone have to be right about anything, nobody is even contending what you are saying.

cashman · 11-09-2008, 00:39

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Originally Posted by blazey

Who is that then?

And Rindy why does anyone have to be right about anything, nobody is even contending what you are saying.

nah i wouldn't call you a nobody blaze.

blazey · 11-09-2008, 00:43

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Originally Posted by keetah992000

so then why is it okay for companies to employ only women or men
or for companies to deem only a fully able person to be able to do a job ?

Sometimes certain types of people are actually the best for the job and others simply wouldn't do it as well. I can't think of an example but I know their are some because I remember seeing some guidelines about it on a government website somewhere.

I guess a good example of some types of 'acceptable' discriminations are not letting partially sighted people work certain jobs in the army. It might not be a problem most of the time but if they can't complete one task but someone can do them all then they should get priority and sadly that is because of a disability.

You wouldn't eat a portions of chips with a spoon but it could be done!

keetah992000 · 11-09-2008, 00:45

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Originally Posted by blazey

Sometimes certain types of people are actually the best for the job and others simply wouldn't do it as well. I can't think of an example but I know their are some because I remember seeing some guidelines about it on a government website somewhere.

I guess a good example of some types of 'acceptable' discriminations are not letting partially sighted people work certain jobs in the army. It might not be a problem most of the time but if they can't complete one task but someone can do them all then they should get priority and sadly that is because of a disability.

You wouldn't eat a portions of chips with a spoon but it could be done!

and that was my point i was making.

mthead · 11-09-2008, 00:47

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Originally Posted by blazey

Are you saying I'm one of the PC brigade?

I got jumped on new lane when i was at college. By a large group of girls who pinned me down and kicked and punched me in the face. I didn't see them all, they could have been all white or some black, asian or whatever, but all I know is that it hurt and that they did it because they were horrible people regardless of skin colour.

I got stamped several times on,on the head,while unconcious.Had a beautiful mark of a Rockport for a few weeks on my face.No love lost between me and them and never will be.Just taking care what I write LOL.Even thogh Im a Catholic there will be NO FORGIVENESS THERE.Not when it was in front of my Mrs.Been Involved in footy stuff but there was no call for it.But with them its not 1 on 1,cant fight on thier own never have and never will do.

Mancie · 11-09-2008, 00:49

I knew it would come down to chips n spoons.. working class food in the bad old Tory days.. maybe you got a drop of gravy if you were well in with the main butler or Mrs Fanny the cook.. Blazey the New Tory.."time for a change".. the change back to when yourself would be more likley stuck up a chimney than at university

keetah992000 · 11-09-2008, 00:50

Mancie · 11-09-2008, 00:53

Blazey quote

I got jumped on new lane when i was at college. By a large group of girls who pinned me down and kicked and punched me in the face. I didn't see them all, they could have been all white or some black, asian or whatever, but all I know is that it hurt and that they did it because they were horrible people regardless of skin colour.

Are you takin the ****?.. we are not as stupid as you reckon..you were attacked by maybe black girls?..up New Lane?.. I reckon the police would have about 3-4 suspects for that crime..how many black girls are in that area.. stupid

blazey · 11-09-2008, 01:01

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Blazey quote

I got jumped on new lane when i was at college. By a large group of girls who pinned me down and kicked and punched me in the face. I didn't see them all, they could have been all white or some black, asian or whatever, but all I know is that it hurt and that they did it because they were horrible people regardless of skin colour.

Are you takin the ****?.. we are not as stupid as you reckon..you were attacked by maybe black girls?..up New Lane?.. I reckon the police would have about 3-4 suspects for that crime..how many black girls are in that area.. stupid

My point was that they could have been any race and it would have still hurt, so why hold grudges about being attacked based on race?

Also on your comment about, I'm from a working class family and to be honest I tend to eat chips with my fingers!

mthead · 11-09-2008, 01:03

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Originally Posted by blazey

My point was that they could have been any race and it would have still hurt, so why hold grudges about being attacked based on race?

I knew exactly what my attackers were.

blazey · 11-09-2008, 01:13

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Originally Posted by mthead

I knew exactly what my attackers were.

Football fans, you already said.

Mine were chav girls from Rhyddings. I try not to hate all white girls from rhyddings though even if I was a mess afterwards. It would be a bit of an inconvenience to me seen as I have friends who go there and I'd hate to cut them off just because they happen to have the same characteristics as my attackers.

Do you see my point?

Do you think all football fans want to jump you in front of your wife?
Do you think all asians would do that or any other race of person?

You are a victim of an attack carried out by a minority of evil, vicious people who happened to be of a different race and may or may not have done it because of your skin colour, but don't stoop as low as them by holding it against every other person who is of that skin colour. Stand above that.

I study with a lot of people from a lot of different countries. I can't comprehend hating a race of people because it would mean I lost a lot of friends and the opportunity to make a lot more.

I think I am too friendly. I was jumped for not retaliating to the abuse those girls gave me. They followed me all the way to the shop trying to get a reaction and let me get a block from my house before they attacked me from behind. Maybe if I had a bit more aggression in me I would've at least managed to protect my face. But I am too proud to stoop to such levels so I was pinned to the floor instead. I was more bitter that people drove past and didn't stop to help me. The fact that the 'decent' people driving past just let me get kicked in the face.

Life is too short to hate people I don't know though.

polly · 11-09-2008, 01:17

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Originally Posted by keetah992000

I disagree that it is racist - I think there is a need for certain jobs and that they are justified.
For example the womens centre in accrington/blackburn can advertise for just women workers because of the sensitive nature of the support they can provide. That isnt sexist it is a need being met.

Now tell me ...

you are in the middle of Moss side you are called to an incident where a yardie is waving a gun around irratically shouting and bawling in a really thick Jamaican accent you need to calm him down quickly but you dont understand a word he is saying except for the fact that he is calling you white scum.

what would you do ?

it happens and unfortunately these are times where jobs are allocated to certain sexes, races or abilities because it is the best option for the situations that crop up in that job.

If there was a job offered for a roofer - would you be saying it was discrmination if it stated you had to have arms and legs

damn you damn you all lol

oh and it turns out he wasnt a yadrie after all - he had dropped his contact lens and was trying to stop people standing on it - the gun was a water pistol to moisturise his eye ballsies

Not quite the same but I know a white, female teacher who taught in a mainly black/Caribbean. When fights broke out, which they did on an almost daily basis, it was her that was sent to break them up - not the coloured male teachers who were at least twice her size. Why? Because she had the respect of the kids and the minute they knew she was around they would stop fighting. Also most of these kids were brought up by single mums so they were used to females word being law.
When male teachers of any ethnic origin were sent the kids took no notice and inevitabley the teacher ended up getting punched.
Now back to the question yes I think any group that makes criteria such as gender or race is discriminatory.
Strange thing is that in nature people always want to be with peop0le like themselves. Watch any large group and you will see the women get together as do the men, the old congregate together as do the younge etc etc