Isnt this Rascist ? - Page 5

Gayle · 11-09-2008, 11:44

The problem with these groups is their aims and I think a lot of groups get tarred with the same brush when they actually have different aims.

I believe that every person should be treated equally when it comes to jobs i.e. positive discrimination is a no no for me. I've missed out on jobs in the past, is it because I'm a woman or is it because I was the wrong person for the job - whatever it is I won't be going blaming it on the fact that I'm a woman, life's too short and if that was the reason then it's the employers that have missed out, not me!

However, the flip side of that is that there are times when you need to promote some jobs to certain groups of people. The example of needing a black policeman in Moss side is a good one. If there aren't enough black men coming forward to join the police then you need to encourage them to do so because as it happens in that instance the colour of their skin would actually affect whether they are the best person for the job.

Neil · 11-09-2008, 13:16

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Originally Posted by keetah992000

Now tell me ...

you are in the middle of Moss side you are called to an incident where a yardie is waving a gun around irratically shouting and bawling in a really thick Jamaican accent you need to calm him down quickly but you dont understand a word he is saying except for the fact that he is calling you white scum.

what would you do ?

the same thing as if he was white and waving a gun around - give the required warning and then shoot him.

Neil · 11-09-2008, 13:19

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Originally Posted by Gayle

The example of needing a black policeman in Moss side is a good one.....as it happens in that instance the colour of their skin would actually affect whether they are the best person for the job.

That is only true if the people in Moss side are colour predujice. By this constant positive discrimination we are allowing these predujices to continue and possibly even grow.

Gayle · 11-09-2008, 13:58

I don't think this is a case of positive discrimination though, I think it's a case of the best person for the job. If there was a woman's refuge which catered for battered women, would it be appropriate for a skinhead bloke with huge tattoos to get the job? Yes you might argue that he could be the best person for the job because his qualifications match, he's actually a really gentle giant etc - but if the 'best person' for the job is a threatening looking person to the women that need the service then he isn't actually the best person for the job.

jaysay · 11-09-2008, 17:52

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Originally Posted by Gayle

The problem with these groups is their aims and I think a lot of groups get tarred with the same brush when they actually have different aims.

I believe that every person should be treated equally when it comes to jobs i.e. positive discrimination is a no no for me. I've missed out on jobs in the past, is it because I'm a woman or is it because I was the wrong person for the job - whatever it is I won't be going blaming it on the fact that I'm a woman, life's too short and if that was the reason then it's the employers that have missed out, not me!

However, the flip side of that is that there are times when you need to promote some jobs to certain groups of people. The example of needing a black policeman in Moss side is a good one. If there aren't enough black men coming forward to join the police then you need to encourage them to do so because as it happens in that instance the colour of their skin would actually affect whether they are the best person for the job.

A copper in Moss side with Breadlocks hanging from the back of his helmet just to fit in don't really make it for me Gayle, the law of the land should be observed and enforced regardless of creed or colour, there should be no nogo areas anywhere in this country.