Making sculptures to go on the Coppice

[Doug]

Originally Posted by Less

That is exactly right, the Coppice is a worthy piece of Accrington and until someone can come up with something absolutely mind bogglingly good that it would attract not only worldwide interest, but would also have local folk like you screaming to be carried to see such great works, then it shouldn't be cheapened with such makeshift run of the mill ideas as have been put forward over the last few years.

I Agree...

[Less]

Just as an aside for those of you that think I know nothing about art, may I suggest that you do a search of accyweb, there you will find copies of some of my 'Uncle Less', series of lectures, proving you to be absolutely correct.
Because it's seasonal it might be worth starting with:-

Uncle less's Christmas card.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Doug

I can has part of an Heritage Park. Visualise a number of life size Bronze Sculptures telling the history of Accrington and her cluster of townships. I can Visualise small clearings within the trees (preferably native ones) at key points with full access; within these clearings and on the top of the coppice you would have memorial sculptures to key events; Bronze Statues of a group of miners looking out and pointing toward Moorcroft. Overlooking Peel Park a cluster Bronze Statues of Accrington Stanley Players striking out towards Goal. Looking out towards the old Drill Hall a group of Pals before the tragedy looking proud and full of vigour, (it was all suppose to be over before Christmas) On the Top of the coppice over looking the town a Replica of the Pals Memorial in Sheffield Memorial Park. And on, Cotton, Chemicals, Dark Mills, Water, we have it all. The story of Hyndburn fixed within the Landscape Known to all of us.

Well I've read your post Doug, but I have a problem with the idea, firstly how would the people who are more likely to be interested in such a project, the elderly (and disabled elderly at that) access the area, the top of the coppice ain't really the easiest place to get to when your getting on in life, such a project would be much more viable in one of the parks not stuck on the top of a hill, just my thoughts on the matter

[Sonnart]

I have considered placing some sculptures in the park at the bottom... The only problem with that is it is moving further away from my original ideas of memories of the Coppice.

Although I suppose Peel Park and the Coppice are all in one are they?

And if it makes it more accessible then I guess that would be better and could also be a good branch leading off the original ideas?

I also looked into making the sculptures in the form of Accrington pals training on the Coppice as I heard there are some photos of that flying about somewhere maybe in the library.

I do like the idea of using images/making sculptures of those who value and use the Coppice rather than famous named people as they're are already known and there are always sculptures/memorials for them. Why not have something to say thanks the people who use the area?

What you think??

Sonnart

[jaysay]

If they're anything like the ones you've pictured on here don't bother they're like a bunch of Meerkats out on the raz

[Sonnart]

Even life sized ones? or ones like Sally Matthews in Grizedale park?

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Sonnart

I have considered placing some sculptures in the park at the bottom... The only problem with that is it is moving further away from my original ideas of memories of the Coppice.

Although I suppose Peel Park and the Coppice are all in one are they?

And if it makes it more accessible then I guess that would be better and could also be a good branch leading off the original ideas?

I also looked into making the sculptures in the form of Accrington pals training on the Coppice as I heard there are some photos of that flying about somewhere maybe in the library.

I do like the idea of using images/making sculptures of those who value and use the Coppice rather than famous named people as they're are already known and there are always sculptures/memorials for them. Why not have something to say thanks the people who use the area?

What you think??

Sonnart

Don't see a lot wrong wi that, remember though as well as being more accesible to people, its also handier fer the vandals.

[susie123]

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Originally Posted by Sonnart

I have considered placing some sculptures in the park at the bottom... The only problem with that is it is moving further away from my original ideas of memories of the Coppice.

Although I suppose Peel Park and the Coppice are all in one are they?

And if it makes it more accessible then I guess that would be better and could also be a good branch leading off the original ideas?

I also looked into making the sculptures in the form of Accrington pals training on the Coppice as I heard there are some photos of that flying about somewhere maybe in the library.

I do like the idea of using images/making sculptures of those who value and use the Coppice rather than famous named people as they're are already known and there are always sculptures/memorials for them. Why not have something to say thanks the people who use the area?

What you think??

Sonnart

I think I see where you are coming from. You want these pieces to be an embodiment of the folks who use the area, real people turned into wood and their memories preserved. Is that any where close to your idea?

[Sonnart]

Yes exactly

I want to make sculptures that you (Accrington people) all like, I enjoy making/producing them and I like the idea behind them and I hoped you would too.

I also think that if I can make something that the majority can agree on, then maybe it could be a small feature (temporary, I don't like the idea of making permanent works for some reason).

[Sonnart]

AAh I suppose it is handier for vandals :S hm, how could I get past that?

[Sonnart]

The original idea was to make sculpture out of wood from the Coppice, in the form of shilouettes taken from photographs that local people would send to me.

Then these 'memory sculptures' can rot and go back into the Coppice, taking the memories with it as a physical process.

Sonnart

[Retlaw]

Originally Posted by Sonnart

I have considered placing some sculptures in the park at the bottom... The only problem with that is it is moving further away from my original ideas of memories of the Coppice.

Although I suppose Peel Park and the Coppice are all in one are they?

And if it makes it more accessible then I guess that would be better and could also be a good branch leading off the original ideas?

I also looked into making the sculptures in the form of Accrington pals training on the Coppice as I heard there are some photos of that flying about somewhere maybe in the library.

I do like the idea of using images/making sculptures of those who value and use the Coppice rather than famous named people as they're are already known and there are always sculptures/memorials for them. Why not have something to say thanks the people who use the area?

What you think??

Sonnart

The Accrington never trained on the Coppice, they did march over it on a couple of occasions, to meet up with the Burnley section.
They did do some training on Moleside, quite a lot on Ellison's Tenement & Hyndburn Park.
There are no photographs flying around somewhere in the Library, all William Turners Collection is sealed, and not available to every Tom, Dick & Harry.
The key to Bills collection is in my pocket, so forget it.
Retlaw.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Sonnart

Yes exactly

I want to make sculptures that you (Accrington people) all like, I enjoy making/producing them and I like the idea behind them and I hoped you would too.

I also think that if I can make something that the majority can agree on, then maybe it could be a small feature (temporary, I don't like the idea of making permanent works for some reason).

Do you not think it might be wise to seek permission from the relative authorities, before exhibiting your work anywhere?

Next year there might be a student who sculpts using scrapped cars, or concrete etc.

Should they just be allowed to site their work on the Coppice?

Some people might appreciate nature's beauty, rather than man's.

[Sonnart]

Ah damn it, no sculptures of the Pals then :P

I have got permission from Accrington Council and I am in the process of arrangments to use wood form the Coppice.

They are planning to cutting down some trees in December. (Not for me, they were cutting some down anyway, which I think is great because then the view will be back!, not that I have ever seen them personally, I have seen photos of my dads)

I have based my whole idea on Accringtons views/memories/ideas. That's why I joined here, I would like to know what you would like if anything. If nothing then that's ok too.

Although I would NEVER put anything anywhere if the there was a stong argument against it from the locals because I live there and even if it is my work that I am proud of, I wouldn't mind finding somewhere else to put it if it would keep the peace.

Sound like backing down I know but I would try my hardest to get my work put where it was originally destined for before agreeing not too.

Sonnart

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

Do you not think it might be wise to seek permission from the relative authorities, before exhibiting your work anywhere?

Next year there might be a student who sculpts using scrapped cars, or concrete etc.

Should they just be allowed to site their work on the Coppice?

Some people might appreciate nature's beauty, rather than man's.

A very valid point Rindi, we could ask our councillors what they think about this the only trouble is they don't answer to threads on council affairs anymore, must have been instructed to keep clear