Moxibustion/breach birth. - Page 3

panther · 12-04-2007, 18:25

ahhhhh give congratulations to the new parents!!

i love babys...they soooooo cute

what did he weigh?

grego · 12-04-2007, 18:31

Thats good news Gary, glad all is well.

harwood red · 12-04-2007, 18:39

ooo good news Gary.... hope she recovers quickly from the section.

Just glad he is sooo young if his first trip out was with uncle rindy

Flash · 12-04-2007, 18:41

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Originally Posted by garinda

Thanks guys. I think I'll pop in there tomorrow.

Any other old wives tips to correct a breach birth, I'll pass on when I see them on Sunday.

WHENEVER POSSIBLE SHE NEEDS TO GET ON HER HANDS AND KNEES WITH HER BOTTOM IN THE AIR. NOT VERY DIGNIFIED I KNOW. I HAVE ALSO HEARD THAT IF YOU PUT SOMETHING VERY COLD ON THE TOP OF YOUR BUMP THE BABY DOESN'T LIKE IT SO IT TURNS ROUND.

panther · 12-04-2007, 18:45

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Originally Posted by Flash

WHENEVER POSSIBLE SHE NEEDS TO GET ON HER HANDS AND KNEES WITH HER BOTTOM IN THE AIR. NOT VERY DIGNIFIED I KNOW. I HAVE ALSO HEARD THAT IF YOU PUT SOMETHING VERY COLD ON THE TOP OF YOUR BUMP THE BABY DOESN'T LIKE IT SO IT TURNS ROUND.

the babys arrived

lettie · 12-04-2007, 19:07

Oooh, I can't believe that I haven't seen this thread until now.

Pass my congrats to your friends on their new arrival.

Moxibustion, like most other treatments is no where near guaranteed to turn a breech baby. Some practitioners have had some limited success with moxi but that success can't be measured or attributed soley to moxi because some babies naturally turn anyway towards the end of pregnancy.

Optimal foetal positioning (bum in the air job) also has had some limited success but for the same reasons cannot be measured accurately. The cold drink on top of the bump doesn't work at all. In 16 years as a midwife I have never known that to work.

Conventional treatments such as external cephalic version (where the baby is turned manually) also has its limits.

Babies are just like any other human being in that they do what they want, when they want.. I have known a baby turn from head first to breech during labour. This is extremely unusual but definitely happened as we had stuck an electrode on the baby's head to monitor the heartbeat. When the baby was born bum first, the electrode was still attached to the head...

There are also medical reasons for babies being breech. Sometimes these babies have one or both hips dislocated, they sit in breech position because they are physically incapable of kicking themselves round. Sometimes mum has a small pelvis and the baby is unable to get in there head first so sits its' smaller bum there instead.

Most breeches these days are born by section. This is because a piece of research which came out of Canada showed that baby would suffer less chance of birth injury during a section as opposed to a vaginal delivery. This research didn't tell us anything that we didn't already know, I have seen horrific injuries to some vaginal breech babies but I have also seen far more who have been uninjured. Ultimately, mode of delivery in the case of breech position is the mother's choice. Obstetricians will always recommend a section based on the Canada study but some mums absolutely do not want a section and wish to try for vaginal birth. A midwife will support that mum regardless of which choice she makes whether she agrees with it or not..

garinda · 12-04-2007, 22:02

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Originally Posted by panther

what did he weigh?

Seven and a half pounds.

garinda · 12-04-2007, 22:34

Not great pictures because I'm a bit thick and couldn't resize the images, so had to print then scan them, but here he is...

panther · 13-04-2007, 07:55

ahhhh a little cute baby!!!!!!
it brings back memorys of when my little boy was born, but he was nearly 3 lb heavier!!!

before you know it he will be running round giving you cheek

grego · 13-04-2007, 08:55

Aaah Gary, the pictures are lovely, if it weren't for the sleepless nights I'm still having I'd be broody again!

Flash · 13-04-2007, 09:37

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Originally Posted by panther

the babys arrived

realised that as son as i posted. a tip for next time maybe

CASPER · 13-04-2007, 17:49

Congratulations I'm glad to hear that mother and son are both well.

For future reference I managed to turn my daughter after the doc couldn't by gently bouncing up and down in the water in the swimming pool. One day she was breech and the doc saying he couldn't turn her as she was too big and a swimming session and a few days later and she was in the correct position. It could have been a coincidence but I don't think so.

mrskitty · 13-04-2007, 21:45

Aww congratulations and best wishes to the new parents.
Such a fantastic time,I really wish them well xXx