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03-03-2013, 22:53
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Re: Nori Brick
the two out side ones will be the older and look like specials, the middle looks like a saint annes engineering brick,made exclusively by nori. who also made thousands of various shapes in ridge tiles, they even made buttons,
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03-03-2013, 23:04
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Re: Nori Brick
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Originally Posted by Pudwoppa
I found a different theory about where the NORI name comes from some time ago. It seems more plausible than the others I've heard, and would also explain why it isn't common knowledge. Text is taken from the Penmorfa Old Bricks website.
"There are two places in the British Isles where you get a particular bed of clay containing alumina (refractory ore), lower red marl and iron ore all in the same measure. They are Broseley in Shropshire and Accrington in the Darwen Valley in Lancashire. Both areas are renowned for their very high quality and extremely resillient bricks. At one stage or another on the Broseley clay beds there were around 45 brickworks. One of these was the works of Capt. John Anstice: confusingly named The Madeley Wood Tile Works. Set up in 1851 this works produced bricks, roofing & floor tiles, also chimney pots and land drain pipes. It closed in 1956.
The brand for this company was IRON, as they also owned several ironworks and blast furnaces. When the Accrington Brick Company began mass production, they also branded their bricks IRON. Capt Anstice got to hear of it and threatened them with court action for breach of his brand copyright. So in an excellent euphoria of marketing, Accrington spelled the name backwards on their bricks and advertised that their brick was "Iron whichever way you put it." Hence today the Accrington NORI is well known and the IRON BROSELEY is forgotten."
If that supposition is correct, then Nori must have made some bricks with Iron on them. for Broseley to get uppity, how come some of those have never surfaced in all these years.
This seems more likely than all of the popular local theories I've heard (several listed on this thread). I contacted Tony Mugridge who runs the website to see if he had reference material for this, and unfortunately he didn't, but said that it was considered relatively common knowledge amongst those who know.
He was also able to reasonably discredit the 'muddled mould' theory:
Quite from common sense: To put the letters in the wrong order on a brick would never matter. Only brick collectors and historians are interested in what it says in the frog [the frog is the indented bit at the top and bottom that carries the logo] . But to put the letters in the wrong order in the foundry, well that would never happen as even apprentice work is checked! No business after all, is going to suggest that they changed the brand on their product because they were threatened with legal action because they copied a brand name.
Not only in the Frog some bricks had the name on the face
So my question is, does anyone have a copy of one of these "Iron whichever way you put it" adverts? I haven't been able to find one so far, and I think it would help to finally clear up the mystery.
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As for the muddled letters theory, having spent the first 12 years of my working life as a pattern maker at Lang Bridges & Bulloughs, no way could that have got thro, several patterns would have been needed before the product reached the brick makers, misspelling on so many patterns, never.
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04-03-2013, 00:01
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Re: Nori Brick
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just been down a beach in the west of scotland and found it littered with nori bricks heres a few pictures.does anybody know how old they are
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Interesting to find three different types on the one beach. We were at Silverdale at the top end of Morecambe Bay a few years ago and found loads of 18th century china sherds. I used to be an archaeologist and it was hard to not pick them up!
Here on Morecambe beach it's a bit of a desert as the town doesn't go back much before 1850. There are one or two interesting finds though...
BBC News - Rare whale vomit found on Morecambe beach
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04-03-2013, 10:11
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Re: Nori Brick
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Originally Posted by susie123
Interesting to find three different types on the one beach. We were at Silverdale at the top end of Morecambe Bay a few years ago and found loads of 18th century china sherds. I used to be an archaeologist and it was hard to not pick them up!
Here on Morecambe beach it's a bit of a desert as the town doesn't go back much before 1850. There are one or two interesting finds though...
BBC News - Rare whale vomit found on Morecambe beach
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Never realised Morecambe was that bad susie
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04-03-2013, 13:04
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Re: Nori Brick
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Never realised Morecambe was that bad susie
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The whale obviously did.
Last edited by Gordon Booth; 04-03-2013 at 13:09.
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04-03-2013, 18:21
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Re: Nori Brick
Probably the result of a stag/hen night at Blackpool.
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04-03-2013, 23:30
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Re: Nori Brick
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Originally Posted by susie123
Interesting to find three different types on the one beach. We were at Silverdale at the top end of Morecambe Bay a few years ago and found loads of 18th century china sherds. I used to be an archaeologist and it was hard to not pick them up!
Here on Morecambe beach it's a bit of a desert as the town doesn't go back much before 1850. There are one or two interesting finds though...
BBC News - Rare whale vomit found on Morecambe beach
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there was a huge dynamite factory nobel peace prize fame.they employed 30,000 people at one point these bricks must have came from there as theyve came down a cliff so some must be about 1860
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05-03-2013, 10:14
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Re: Nori Brick
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there was a huge "dynamite factory" nobel peace prize fame.they employed 30,000 people at one point these bricks must have came from there as theyve came down a cliff so some must be about 1860
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I think you will find that Dynamite was not invented until 1867
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05-03-2013, 10:20
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Re: Nori Brick
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I think you will find that Dynamite was not invented until 1867
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Nice one Barrie
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05-03-2013, 10:35
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Re: Nori Brick
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Originally Posted by cmonstanley
there was a huge dynamite factory nobel peace prize fame.they employed 30,000 people at one point these bricks must have came from there as theyve came down a cliff so some must be about 1860
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Would this be the very one cmonstanley?
Alfred Nobel in Scotland
Some dates for you and Mr Yates too.
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05-03-2013, 10:49
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Re: Nori Brick
"The prevailing academic consensus is that gunpowder was formulated in the 9th century by Chinese alchemists" - wikipedia
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05-03-2013, 11:06
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Re: Nori Brick
Lot's and lots of ways of making a big bang.
The IRA used weedkiller mixed with another common household item to make explosives as some correspondents on here will attest to * I have always liked the tale of how Hannibal shattered the boulders blocking his way across the Alps with fire and vinegar.
See wiki "Fire-setting"
*No names no pack-drill
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05-03-2013, 17:43
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Re: Nori Brick
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"The prevailing academic consensus is that gunpowder was formulated in the 9th century by Chinese alchemists" - wikipedia
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Gunpowder and dynamite have very little in common except the properties to make a big bang.
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05-03-2013, 21:56
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Re: Nori Brick
looks like Nori werent the only ones to "misspell", saw this today so got a pic for you all
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06-03-2013, 09:51
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Re: Nori Brick
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looks like Nori werent the only ones to "misspell", saw this today so got a pic for you all
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And before anybody mentions it, no my Grandfather didn't work at Nori Brickyard
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