nursing homes + care homes - Page 4

harwood red · 06-02-2008, 23:12

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Originally Posted by misskitty

Seeing as its little things such as forgetting to clean the place,have you thought about getting her assessed for sheltered accomodation instead of a nursing home?

If she has the onset of dementia (diagnosed) she would probably fail the assessment for sheltered accommodation as it classed as independant living

Doug · 06-02-2008, 23:16

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Originally Posted by harwood red

If she has the onset of dementia (diagnosed) she would probably fail the assessment for sheltered accommodation as it classed as independant living

You would be very suprise how many dementia suffers live alone in the community with only domiciliary support through the day, quite often these are victims of less professional companies who encorage their staff to do a quick in and out so they can get more people on there books. Its sickening, worse still it continues to happen.

blazey · 06-02-2008, 23:21

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Originally Posted by Doug

You can use the Commission for Social Care Inspection web site to judge standards of home via the inspection reports or the best way I have found is to select half a dozen and make arrangements to visit them, then its a case of using your eyes, hears and nose. talk to staff, residents and visitors. A care home should be a home, if it's too bright and shiney and the residents can't interact then I'd be weary.

Ah well thats good advice for Mick, and maybe he'll be able to take your advice, obviously you have a good idea.

harwood red · 06-02-2008, 23:22

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Originally Posted by Doug

You would be very suprise how many dementia suffers live alone in the community with only domiciliary support through the day, quite often these are victims of less professional companies who encorage their staff to do a quick in and out so they can get more people on there books. Its sickening, worse still it continues to happen.

I don't disagree with you doug and many with dementia continue to live in their own home too... but when I assess someone for sheltered accommodation, I take professional advice on their diagnosed illnesses and the onset of dementia (dependant on how long it had been diagnosed and how far on it was) has to be considered seriously..we have to consider not only the client but also the others living in the sheltered complex

Doug · 06-02-2008, 23:28

Believe me, over the years I’ve made myself as popular as clap in a nunnery. Other posters have already said you have to stand your ground where bad practice is concerned and act against it. But we have to remember that not every one carer or home is bad, in fact many are as good as you will anywhere in the EU. Often it can be one individual that spoils it for every one else its what’s done to put things right that counts, as for choice its down to the individual.

Doug · 06-02-2008, 23:30

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Originally Posted by harwood red

I don't disagree with you doug and many with dementia continue to live in their own home too... but when I assess someone for sheltered accommodation, I take professional advice on their diagnosed illnesses and the onset of dementia (dependant on how long it had been diagnosed and how far on it was) has to be considered seriously..we have to consider not only the client but also the others living in the sheltered complex

Are you sure you don't want one............

ANNE · 07-02-2008, 00:37

I will come an work for you Doug if I ever manage to convince Mick to move to Blackpool.

jaysay · 07-02-2008, 10:09

There are god and bad in every thing and homes for the elderly are no different. As I said in another thread I served on the LCC Social Services Liaison and we visited these homes every six months and I found that most were okay, mind you here are none left to inspect as LCC have nearly sold them all. As for private homes I can only speak on those I have actually visited and they were pretty fair.

panther · 07-02-2008, 10:12

The only thing really I dont agree with is paying for it out of their life saving

It should be FREE

blazey · 07-02-2008, 19:03

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Originally Posted by panther

The only thing really I dont agree with is paying for it out of their life saving

It should be FREE

Why should it be free to live once you get old? I can understand how it'd be a nice gesture to make it free but peoples wages need to be paid to help run these places and everything.

katex · 07-02-2008, 19:46

This thread is sort of giving me a guilt trip. My mum finished up in a Residential Home at the end of her years (was 89). She wasn't suffering too much from senile dementia (hell, could do the Daily Mirrors Quiz crossword within the hour). Just that she was terribly forgetful, not turning off oven jets, asking son how old he was a few times within half hour, unsteady on her feet, forgetting where I worked, broken hip just falling over whilst kneeling down lighting fire etc.

Lived with brother at the time, but was obvious was getting impossible to watch her at all times. I was rearing a 10-year old and helping with 3-year grandaughter .. 8 nights out of 11, and working in Manchester.

Think she understood and went in without grumbling. They were very kind and, although couldn't go without shedding a tear (self indulgence). think she was comfortable.

Yes, I do feel guilty .. but I would not expect my kids to look after me 24/7. If decent home, can be like a hotel .. waited on hand on foot, no housework, no cooking .. roll on ..

Am confident would get put in a good one, due to the agency work my daughter did in many homes around here (and she is very forceful with her opinions and knowledge of what is good and bad) .. so I count myself lucky.