Ok, So What Are Free Schools ... ?

Eric · 09-09-2011, 15:08

I know I could google it ... but it's much more fun asking you guys

Margaret Pilkington · 09-09-2011, 15:21

Headmaster's voice: What are free schools? - Telegraph

There you go Eric.
The primary School near us is set to become one of these schools.(October)
The school will be able to manage its own finances, it will be able to set its own curriculum...decide on when school holidays should be....and even the starting and finishing time of the school day.
That is what the parents of children were told when it was proposed.
Many parents do not understand what the implications of Free schools are......we will have to wait and see how things go. From what I was told, the school in question went before it was pushed......next year it may have been forced to become a Free School.

Eric · 09-09-2011, 15:41

Read one of Cameron's speeches in The Guardian ... some of what he says seems to make sense ... esp. the warnings about the emerging Asian nations. But some of it seems to be "tinkering" with a system that is terminally ill (Ours isn't quite as bad yet ... it's limping painfully to that point) ...

garinda · 09-09-2011, 16:09

They're based on a Swedish idea.

We can pick them up flat-packed at IKEA, but they charge us for them.

So they aren't really 'free'.

Free school (England) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Eric · 09-09-2011, 19:47

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Originally Posted by garinda

They're based on a Swedish idea.

We can pick them up flat-packed at IKEA, but they charge us for them.

So they aren't really 'free'.

Free school (England) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So ... some assembly required, eh.

accyman · 09-09-2011, 21:00

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Originally Posted by Eric

So ... some assembly required, eh.

usually in the morning just before lessons start

cmonstanley · 09-09-2011, 21:26

and accept donations.the new elitisms from the tories.bet they will choose their own pupils as well

Margaret Pilkington · 10-09-2011, 07:01

Most schools, whether they be Free Schools or not accept donations.......mainly from parents. Our local school is always on the cadge for something.
And yes, I know you meant money from business people.
don't the schools run by the Muslim community do the same thing....and how many Christian children do they accept?? Of course that isn't the same thing in your book because it's not something instigated by the Coalition government..... so it escapes your political jibes.
Do you ever post anything that doesn't have a political axe to grind???

Eric · 10-09-2011, 07:26

See ... I knew that this would be more fun than Wiki

jaysay · 10-09-2011, 08:32

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Most schools, whether they be Free Schools or not accept donations.......mainly from parents. Our local school is always on the cadge for something.
And yes, I know you meant money from business people.
don't the schools run by the Muslim community do the same thing....and how many Christian children do they accept?? Of course that isn't the same thing in your book because it's not something instigated by the Coalition government..... so it escapes your political jibes.
Do you ever post anything that doesn't have a political axe to grind???

Margaret he doesn't even achieve that, he just talks a load of uninformed manure, never makes any valid political argument what so ever

cmonstanley · 10-09-2011, 08:40

no i agree with you magaret its called apartheid seperating children because of religion etc.south africa fought against apartheid and we are hypocrites doctoring and encouraging the same policies by seperating children at birth by religion class etc by saying its freedom of choice.

jaysay · 10-09-2011, 09:21

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

no i agree with you magaret its called apartheid seperating children because of religion etc.south africa fought against apartheid and we are hypocrites doctoring and encouraging the same policies by seperating children at birth by religion class etc by saying its freedom of choice.

Ya I've always thought Prodies and Catholics should be taught in one school

DaveinGermany · 10-09-2011, 12:07

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

and accept donations.the new elitisms from the tories.bet they will choose their own pupils as well

How do you figure that ? The whole idea of a free school is that it can be pretty much set up by any one within a community to suit their requirements they feel they need for their children. Makes sense to me, but those with union tendencies will probably be averse to it as it throws a spanner in the works of their cushy little number. Perhaps some of our teaching profession members could partake & enlighten us ?

Eight free schools to open | Education | guardian.co.uk

Margaret Pilkington · 10-09-2011, 13:25

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

no i agree with you magaret its called apartheid seperating children because of religion etc.south africa fought against apartheid and we are hypocrites doctoring and encouraging the same policies by seperating children at birth by religion class etc by saying its freedom of choice.

It is no more apartheid than having chidren of different faiths educated in different schools. Our local school happens to be Church of England....there is also on a little further away which is Roman Catholic...then there is another one which has no ties to any religion.

The apartheid you speak of, that was prevalent in South Africa permeated every aspect of the Black and coloured peoples lives......homes, jobs, where they could go to see a film/play...where they could eat out(that is if they could afford that luxury...........which many could not).
It is not the same at all.....and should not be viewed in the same light.

If you are going to come on here and talk about such serious subjects as apartheid...then make sure you know what you are talking about first.

Eric · 10-09-2011, 21:14

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

How do you figure that ? The whole idea of a free school is that it can be pretty much set up by any one within a community to suit their requirements they feel they need for their children. Makes sense to me, but those with union tendencies will probably be averse to it as it throws a spanner in the works of their cushy little number. Perhaps some of our teaching profession members could partake & enlighten us ?

Eight free schools to open | Education | guardian.co.uk

Folks over here can set up a school, but it has to meet certain standards. And the parents have to pay the shot ... we have a couple of private schools in Kingston: one is a Montesorri school and the other is ... I don't know ... something else

I'm slowly getting a grasp of what goes on in education in the UK. Over here, it's way different. Education here is a provincial matter. According to the British North America Act, provinces control education and raise taxes to fund it. The Feds have very little input. The Feds, however, will transfer tax revenue to the poorer provinces in order to ensure that there is equality of education across the country. Now that you are nodding off ... I'll quit ... have a nice day, eh.