Old Pubs

[Retlaw]

[quote=Tealeaf;925932]But that's exactly it, Walter - the dates. This stuff is all the later part of the 18C/early 19th -
Those routes I quoted were the old routes into Old Accy. The dates I gave are when those old highways were eventually made into proper roads.
Those routes must have been well used for them to have been made up, practically every river has a ford or a bridge some where along its route.
Tha lives nearer to public record office than what I do, go and have a look.
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[Retlaw]

I have no doubt that wagons and private coaches stopped at and used the Bull; but my guess is their main travelling guests would have been sheep rovers and the like.[/quote]
Cattle & sheep drovers were more likely to bed down near their stock, on common land, than stay in places like the Bull or the Bay Horse.

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[anzac]

Originally Posted by Bob Dobson

I've never heard the term 'grain court' but it might have had something to do with the corn mill just across the road in Hyndburn Rd, then called Hagg Lane.

I too think that 'coaching inn' can be a term which takes in horse-drawn travel of any sort. It could have been the reason why a farrier /blacksmith was just around the corner from The Bull. I think that the name Bull Brtidge is still visible in the wall of the old bridge somewhere near the car park entrance, pout there buy the County Council c 1890, but it is likely, certainly possible, that there was a bridge there before that, and before a bridge there would be just a ford. It could be said that this was the very centre of Accrington in (say) 1700

I bought a fantastic book a few weeks ago in a Charity Shop called "The Accrington Old Water Corn Mill - it's History and Owners"

Really interesting read about the Corn Mill and it's surroundings

[cashman]

now that does sound interesting anzac.

[Tealeaf]

Talking about mills, this piccy cropped up the other day on the Homebase site. Am I the only one that sees an outline of a waterwheel on the old building on the right:

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...uct-10635.html

It's the piccy on the left...the links have gone to pot.

[Retlaw]

Originally Posted by Tealeaf

Talking about mills, this piccy cropped up the other day on the Homebase site. Am I the only one that sees an outline of a waterwheel on the old building on the right:

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...uct-10635.html

It's the piccy on the left...the links have gone to pot.

Is this what your on about.
were is this ? ( 123456)
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[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cashman

i was always told in 60s the "Bull" was n old "Grain Court" whatever that was, twas the landlord Ken Green that told me, in recent times i have been told it was not, so aint a sodding clue.

Was he any relation to Ted Green who had what is now the Bees Knees cashy

[cashman]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Was he any relation to Ted Green who had what is now the Bees Knees cashy

Nah, dont reckon so, this guy was pretty clever. was a member of the "Magic Circle"

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cashman

Nah, dont reckon so, this guy was pretty clever. was a member of the "Magic Circle"

Ya mean he used to make your wage disappear every week cashy

[Bob Dobson]

There are some cracking photos in the book 'Industry & Prudence' ; a lan for Accrington (1950) including ones of the Australian & the Olde Black Bull (p86) and The Warner Arms when it had a shop alongside it on the Church St side -now part of the pub. (p109) There's one which might have been taken from the front door of the Black Bull (p63) One just catches the Abbey (p52). I think there's one wjhch shows the side of the Arden and the name of the Blackburn Brewing Company(?) on it but I cannot now find it. There's also a drawing - very scarce this - of Bank Brewery (p18)

[anzac]

That was another book I bought a couple of weeks ago in The British Heart Foundation Shop in Accrington - really interesting book full of wonderful old photographs