Oldest Building in Accy

[Royboy39]

Originally Posted by Caz

Kirk means church, therefore St James Church, Church Kirk,( or Church Church), in Church.
Get it now?

OK Smart Arse....I fully understand the word Kirk and the meaning in Retlaws post.
Let''s put this in different context...what is the oldest building in the Accrington Area as it used to be....Accy Church and Ossy?

[Caz]

Soz, seemed that was the bit you were refering to..., and hence why you asked if hed been on the bevy!!

[cashman]

would have guessed the "Stag" at church, obviously wrong.

[cmonstanley]

local knowledge says it the two cottages on whalley road just down from the oakleigh.[the proper spellin]

[Royboy39]

Originally Posted by cashman

would have guessed the "Stag" at church, obviously wrong.

Try Plowthalge. Tudor Mansion.

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by Retlaw

High Riley Cottages, up sandy Lane, the next one is Higher Hey.

the next oldest buildings are at the bottom of Warner St, just before the Warner Arms, after that its the rest of Warner St and Oak St, Abbey St, most of the buildings there, are around 1810-1820, the Red Lion was the first, built by Jacob Lang, who had previously owned a pub in Grange Lane called the Red Lion. In the 1841 census it shows Jacob Lang in the Red Lion, but that was his son.

St James Church is not a habitable building, cold, damp and drafty.

Retlaw.

When I lived in Belthorn the deeds of my cottage were dated 1812 but they had been drawn up for an 'existing dwelling' so the build date is not known.

[cashman]

never was to hot at geography, but is belthorn accy n district?

[Retlaw]

Originally Posted by K.S.H

where are these cottages? I know sandy lane but how far up are we talking about?
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High Riley, next but one after New barn farm, try google earth and follow Sandy Lane or just type in the address.

Retlaw.

[Retlaw]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

When I lived in Belthorn the deeds of my cottage were dated 1812 but they had been drawn up for an 'existing dwelling' so the build date is not known.

Your lucky Margaret, in those days deeds usually refered to land, buildings were'nt reckoned to be of much value, there are some old cottages near me, there are visible three different building lines, you can see where others have been added, they were built circa 1820, not one of them has a deed earlier than 1840.
Retlaw.

[Retlaw]

Originally Posted by cashman

never was to hot at geography, but is belthorn accy n district?

It was classed as part of Greater Accrington, in WW1, thats why men from that area are in my WW1 files.

Retlaw.

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by cashman

never was to hot at geography, but is belthorn accy n district?

The boundary is the road through the village - I lived on the Hyndburn side

[Eric]

What about that farm in Clayton ... off the end of Rishton Rd. ... Think it is called Ringstonhalgh, or something like that ... farmed by the Swales when I was a kid (no jokes please, we are all getting older) ... and those cottages near Bayley St. Stone Row I think.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Retlaw

It was classed as part of Greater Accrington, in WW1, thats why men from that area are in my WW1 files.

Retlaw.

Originally Posted by MargaretR

The boundary is the road through the village - I lived on the Hyndburn side

ya learn summat new every day, ta fer that folks.

[SPUGGIE J]

There hasbeen that many changes to the boundries that would it not be wise to say that they should be in a set distance of the market or old town gate?

[K.S.H]

Always got told the oldest building in "Church" was the farm on your left when you go over the canal bridge at the end of St James Rd, don't know how true it is though