Pennine Reach

[lancsdave]

Will Tesco sue Hyndburn council if the new bus station is scrapped. I'm sure one of the sweeteners will have been to make sure the public are dropped off as near to the store as possible.

The whole scheme was stupid, yet to find anybody who agreed with it but councillors were still prepared to go ahead with it. We are situated at the Blackburn bus stop, the buses seem to get through okay without spending 50 million.

Leave the bus station where it is

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

But I have long held the belief that a new bus station is essential.

Why is it?

[shillelagh]

another question for bernard ... why should accrington have a new bus station when its not that old .. especially when you compare it to Rawtenstalls bus station ..

[MargaretR]

I recall that decision to resite the bus station was made soon after a lady was killed crossing it.
Whether the two are connected, I am unsure, but maybe.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

I recall that decision to resite the bus station was made soon after a lady was killed crossing it.
Whether the two are connected, I am unsure, but maybe.

ya may be right? remember that incident, if it was -think its better to step back n think, as things like that do raise emotions.

[Margaret Pilkington]

I hope that the Pennine Reach is ditched along with the plans to site a new bus station where the Train staion is.
This will be a death knell to the town centre as it is.......a bus station there, is too far out of the town centre.......will cause problems for the old and infirm and mothers with prams.
As for the bus station being moved because of a freak accident......I think if that had any bearing at all on the decision, then it is a knee jerk reaction and badly thought out.

[katex]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

along with the plans to site a new bus station where the Train staion is.
This will be a death knell to the town centre as it is.......a bus station there, is too far out of the town centre.......will cause problems for the old and infirm and mothers with prams.
As for the bus station being moved because of a freak accident......I think if that had any bearing at all on the decision, then it is a knee jerk reaction and badly thought out.

The plans were for Crawshaw Street, which was the perfect location.

Not going to express my opinion again on this .. have said enough before.

It is sad that it has been ditched .. a new bus station was very much needed and would have been state of the art.Would have given outsiders a greater impression and encourage visits to our town.

Peel Street has never been a bus station, just bus stops causing congestion and danger. It buggers up the plan to replace it with a square which would have been extremely beneficial and more pleasing to the eye/useful than what is there now, encouraging visitors to our town. What's to bet you will all be whinging about it in the not too distant future.

No, the accident was not the cause .. just coincidental.

I am exasperated and upset ...

[lancsdave]

Originally Posted by katex

It is sad that it has been ditched .. a new bus station was very much needed and would have been state of the art.Would have given outsiders a greater impression and encourage visits to our town.

I would have thought there are major parts of Accrington that need money spending on them before spending money on a state of the art bus station just to give a good impression. The town centre itself is so spread out I can't figure out how anyone can decide which is the best place for a new bus station.

Out of curiosity what is 'state of the art' ? A roof and electronic timetables ?

[cashman]

Originally Posted by katex

I am exasperated and upset ...

Why? cos apart from councillors yer on yer own?

[Bernard Dawson]

Originally Posted by katex

The plans were for Crawshaw Street, which was the perfect location.

Not going to express my opinion again on this .. have said enough before.

It is sad that it has been ditched .. a new bus station was very much needed and would have been state of the art.Would have given outsiders a greater impression and encourage visits to our town.

Peel Street has never been a bus station, just bus stops causing congestion and danger. It buggers up the plan to replace it with a square which would have been extremely beneficial and more pleasing to the eye/useful than what is there now, encouraging visitors to our town. What's to bet you will all be whinging about it in the not too distant future.

No, the accident was not the cause .. just coincidental.

I am exasperated and upset ...

I think you're right, Peel St has never been a purpose built bus station. It's just a street that happened to have bus stops on it.

I also think it is dangerous.My view is that this stems partly from the fact that Peel St was never really designed as a proper bus station.

Moving the bus station also opens up as you say the possibility of developing Peel St.

It may well now come to nothing if we don't get the funding. And yet had the Council been more decisive when the plans were first put forward, the funding could have already been in place.

[BERNADETTE]

Peel Street was never a bus station before our old market was destroyed and as far as I'm concerned it still isn't. But to move the bus "stops" further out of town would certainly see off the rest of the local traders IMHO.
How about being sensible for a change??? Instead of building (or trying to) a bus lane why not get double yellows on all major bus routes?? Believe it or not there are lots of us who do use buses. It ain't rocket science on how to get traffic moving IMHO.

[Bernard Dawson]

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

Peel Street was never a bus station before our old market was destroyed and as far as I'm concerned it still isn't. But to move the bus "stops" further out of town would certainly see off the rest of the local traders IMHO.
How about being sensible for a change??? Instead of building (or trying to) a bus lane why not get double yellows on all major bus routes?? Believe it or not there are lots of us who do use buses. It ain't rocket science on how to get traffic moving IMHO.

I'd be surprised if any of it happens now Bernie. Personally I'd be more disappointed if we don't get a new bus station. The new bus route I could live without.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

Peel Street was never a bus station before our old market was destroyed and as far as I'm concerned it still isn't. But to move the bus "stops" further out of town would certainly see off the rest of the local traders IMHO.
How about being sensible for a change??? Instead of building (or trying to) a bus lane why not get double yellows on all major bus routes?? Believe it or not there are lots of us who do use buses. It ain't rocket science on how to get traffic moving IMHO.

A better use of money, and which would certainly speed traffic congestion, would be to have a traffic warden permenantly on duty on a certain stretch of Blackburn Road.

Let's face it, Accrington town centre developed before the omnibuses appeared. Though the bus station worked perfectly well in the sixties and seventies, with much more buses used then, in Peel Street, before the powers that be decided to move half the market back to where it used to be.

Result, half of a much reduced a market that was, and half a bus station that was.

Planning courtesy of morons.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

I'd be surprised if any of it happens now Bernie. Personally I'd be more disappointed if we don't get a new bus station. The new bus route I could live without.

So even though you 'could live without' the Pennine Route bus lanes. that would decimate hundreds of businesses along it's route, you'd have ignored that, because you'd have recieved a pot of dosh for a shiny new bus station?

[garinda]

I honestly think we're living with the results of a post-war generation of children, who are now in positions of power, and who didn't have enough toy cars and/or doll's houses to play with when they were kids.