Rutland Street

Morecambe Ex Pat · 09-03-2018, 19:26

I am pretty sure that Rutland Street was off Blackburn Road but can you please help in locating it exactly.

Margaret Pilkington · 09-03-2018, 20:35

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There is a map on this page So you can see for yourself

Morecambe Ex Pat · 10-03-2018, 07:13

Thanks Margaret, I used to deliver building materials around the Accrington, back in the last century and have delivered to most streets in the town. I still remember where most of them are but that one had me stumped.

landhusweg · 10-03-2018, 08:48

Good work Margaret.
I was going to suggest going into Google Earth to find the street, but after doing this myself, the only thing that showed up was Rutland Close in Clayton-le-Moors.
It would seem that Google Earth is not by any means the "Bible" for maps.

Cheers
Philip

Margaret Pilkington · 10-03-2018, 09:53

You are welcome...glad to be able to help.

Morecambe Ex Pat · 10-03-2018, 13:10

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Originally Posted by landhusweg

Good work Margaret.
I was going to suggest going into Google Earth to find the street, but after doing this myself, the only thing that showed up was Rutland Close in Clayton-le-Moors.
It would seem that Google Earth is not by any means the "Bible" for maps.

Cheers
Philip

I did the same thing Phillip and now wish I had kept my well thumbed copy of Shurmer's Guide. I am plotting the co-ordinates of all of our census records onto a Google map and need all the help I can get. I have plotted a number of missing streets in both Blackburn and Accrington but Rutland Street had me baffled. As always, the good folks of Accy Web came to the rescue.

Retlaw · 10-03-2018, 13:58

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Originally Posted by Morecambe Ex Pat

I am pretty sure that Rutland Street was off Blackburn Road but can you please help in locating it exactly.

Ay eck Morecambe, looks like none of the others are any elp, having been in Fire Brigade we had to know where streets were with out any head scratchin, jump int machine headlight and flashers on an roar of down road left at traffic light the on towards Church an on your left betwen Leyland St, and Lonsdale St, was Rutland St, most of the streets on that side of the road are only little short streets because of the railway line from Ossy, like Barlow, Porter, Percival, Holland & Poland
Not forgetting Lang, Grant, and Wheat, just after Wilows Lane.

Retlaw · 10-03-2018, 14:18

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Originally Posted by Morecambe Ex Pat

I did the same thing Phillip and now wish I had kept my well thumbed copy of Shurmer's Guide. I am plotting the co-ordinates of all of our census records onto a Google map and need all the help I can get. I have plotted a number of missing streets in both Blackburn and Accrington but Rutland Street had me baffled. As always, the good folks of Accy Web came to the rescue.

Sumat else I forgot in the other post, I knew Adrian Shurmer very well, he operated out of the Police Garage in Grange Lane, Adrian use to consult our records when he was creatin his guide, we had rcords mot just on streets, but back alleys ginnals, premises. and water supplies, Adrian also made several deliberate mistakes in his books and street plans, I challenged him on several points, and he just laughed, and said thee an me know there wrong, thats to catch the plagarists, which he did.

Good un Adrian me owd fettler R.I.P .

Morecambe Ex Pat · 10-03-2018, 16:13

I knew all the roads 30 years or more back and still remember most of them.

I too knew Adrian well as I did a lot of work for him but not on the street guide. He was a great bloke and I will always remember him saying he was too honest to be a politician.

cashman · 10-03-2018, 19:06

Was there a little Joiners Shop on Rutland St?

Ryewolf90 · 10-03-2018, 21:28

A while back I was trying to remember the name of the street between Lonsdale St and Leyland St as friends from school (Peter and Juliet Inksman - actually it might have been spelled Hinksman) lived on the corner of Blackburn Rd and Rutland St. This was back in the early 60's to mid 70's, I often wonder what happened to all these people I knew from around this area. We lived at number 10 Lonsdale St (between 1962-77)

Morecambe Ex Pat · 10-03-2018, 22:12

There must have been hundreds of houses knocked down around there but where did all the people go?

Bob Dobson · 11-03-2018, 09:16

Several of the streets that Retlaw has mentioned have been demolished. At least one has been re-named. Steiner gave the streets their names, though why he chose Rutland I am unsure. However, it is one of several in the town named after English counties,

Bob Dobson · 11-03-2018, 11:45

I have fund my notes on Rutland St. They show that , before Steiner owned the land, it was owned by the Peels and Steiner didn't change the name allocated to it at the early planning stage. Some streets on Peel land were given county names, but not in clusters, just occasionally. However it is also possible that the Peels knew Charles Cecil John Manners, 6th Duke of Rutland who was a Conservative cabinet member with and under Lord Derby, a big mate of the Peels. He would be known to the Sir Robert Peel, who was PM in the 1830s & 40s. He was a very wealthy landowner and someone the Accrington Peels would associate with.

Barrie Yates · 11-03-2018, 16:41

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Originally Posted by cashman

Was there a little Joiners Shop on Rutland St?

Don't remember a Joiners but there was a Grocers, name of Snape I think, top section.