Should kids be allowed in pubs

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

I think they should be allowed in as long as they are supervised. The problems start when parents let them run wild.

Quite agree Bernie, no problem over here, but there seems to be a far better family attitude over here - parents etc, take responsibility for the behaviour of their children.

[MUMMIBOO]

Where else would Less go if they stopped kids from going in pubs? you would find him dossing outside the shops with a bottle of cider.

[Neil]

He does that at as well on Monday, Wednesday,Friday and Sundays.

[DaveinGermany]

It's another one of those issues that polarises people, some say fine let em in, others are dead against. There are places that manage to balance both sides & for them that's fine as long as rules are in place to accommodate the differing groups.

I certainly wouldn't take kids into A Dockers Alehouse or Workman's Pub even if they did the best food in the District, there'd be to much Scope for conflict. Yet if the Kids are polite & well behaved (having parents who will control their nippers if they're out of line) sitting down together at a table & having something to eat but being out of there before the serious drinking starts I don't see that as a problem.

This happens quite a lot on the continent & we've seen it often enough in Holland, so that no-one bats an eyelid at the kids being there. So really I think it's a matter of Horses for courses really. Plus in todays economic climate, allowing families in with Kids may well be the only thing keeping the landlords head above water, & the Pub from going to the wall.

[Gayle]

I think pubs should be able to market themselves however they want. So if a pub wants to be purely for drinkers they should be that, if they want to be friendly family then they should be that - I even think that there should be smoker friendly pubs.

That way, the consumer can choose which pub they want to go in. And as long as all the consumers that went in the pubs knew what type of pub it was, they couldn't argue.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

think it's a matter of Horses for courses really.

agreed, kids = playing fields, Adults = Public houses.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by cashman

agreed, kids = playing fields, Adults = Public houses.

Agreed but a lot of Pubs have Beer gardens with swings & stuff for the little Darlins to play on, because while they're occupied playing Mum & Dad can have a Drink or two & the Kiddllings will be in & out for pop & crisps, so the longer the Landlord can keep them there the more his till klingles.

[Tealeaf]

Originally Posted by Gayle

I think pubs should be able to market themselves however they want. So if a pub wants to be purely for drinkers they should be that, if they want to be friendly family then they should be that - I even think that there should be smoker friendly pubs.

That way, the consumer can choose which pub they want to go in. And as long as all the consumers that went in the pubs knew what type of pub it was, they couldn't argue.

Not a bad idea, Gayle. Could I suggest that those pubs which wish to be 'family friendly' should do so by in the first instance, removing the traditional pub sign from outside their premises? In their place, they should stick a big capital 'M' sign, or possibly a piccy of an old boy with a goatee beard and a factory-bred chicken, and then furnish the premises with formica topped tables and bar staff who invariably reply "Enjoy - have a nice day" when completing your order. Oh, and remove their alcohol licence at the same time.

[Gayle]

Originally Posted by Tealeaf

Not a bad idea, Gayle. Could I suggest that those pubs which wish to be 'family friendly' should do so by in the first instance, removing the traditional pub sign from outside their premises? In their place, they should stick a big capital 'M' sign, or possibly a piccy of an old boy with a goatee beard and a factory-bred chicken, and then furnish the premises with formica topped tables and bar staff who invariably reply "Enjoy - have a nice day" when completing your order. Oh, and remove their alcohol licence at the same time.

Perhaps if you gave the places that had a big capital 'M' sign or a old boy with a goatee beard sign, an alcohol licence, you wouldn't have the complaints that you do about sprogs in pubs.

Although, if that did happen, I would want to ban grumpy old men from any family friendly place.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Gayle

Perhaps if you gave the places that had a big capital 'M' sign or a old boy with a goatee beard sign, an alcohol licence, you wouldn't have the complaints that you do about sprogs in pubs.

Although, if that did happen, I would want to ban grumpy old men from any family friendly place.

I think its only our strange belief in this Country that booze is evil that stops it. Abroad you get beer in fast food places

[Ken Moss]

I'm not against it but I am firmly against parents who won't reprimand the little sods for running wild, and this really counts for anywhere.

We live in a blissful world where the PC brigade have forbidden parents to slap children for being naughty. It certainly never did us any harm and I fancy I have a more respectful view of the world than many of the children I see today.

I wonder how quickly many of them would be 'cured' of ADHD after a surprise visit from Dad's Hand? It certainly focused my attention after behaving inappropriately.

[shillelagh]

but according to a survey done parent s are not disciplining their kids .... they dont want to be seen as being over strict

Modern parents avoid discipline for fear of upsetting their children | Mail Online

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Tealeaf

Is that Less?

Nah, .... looks too intelligent and too handsome

[Eric]

I'm sort of ok with kids in bars ... as long as the parents take care to keep a lid on them ... In Ontario, kids are allowed into bars that serve food; but, they have to be gone at 7:00 pm ... that gives the adults plenty of time to get shltfaced ... 7:00 pm 'till 2:30 am .... the group that should not be allowed in bars are the disgusting, drunken, puking, slobbering, attitudinal assholes.

[Less]

Originally Posted by Eric

the group that should not be allowed in bars are the disgusting, drunken, puking, slobbering, attitudinal assholes.

Are kids optional or compulsory with that group of people?