Smoking ban......(Hmmmm) - Page 8

Less · 17-02-2014, 13:46

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Originally Posted by cashman

If they were working many hours oer there time,i can only assume they did,Margaret will no doubt clarify. But yeh seem to be looking fer any excuse to nit-pick??

Nit picking is good for him, it is what the inferior ape does to try and ingratiate itself with those higher in the group.

gpick24 · 17-02-2014, 13:48

I don`t mean to nit-pick, and if that`s how it`s come across then I can only apologise, but i don`t like to make assumptions, i`d rather just ask the question.

cashman · 17-02-2014, 13:51

Fair enough, but it does seem n obvious assumption i made if people are working many hours oer time?

gpick24 · 17-02-2014, 14:02

It should be, but I know from when my mrs was on the wards, she`d come home after a long day (7.30am - 8.30pm) having not had a break since 10.30. She`d had to work through her dinner and afternoon break.

Margaret Pilkington · 17-02-2014, 14:13

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Originally Posted by gpick24

Did the non-smokers get a similar kind of deal, pehaps if they need a brew they can just nip off to the canteen.

The non smokers could brew up any time they wanted to...and we had the facilities on the ward to do so....but most of the nurses used to have a brew while they were doing the writing up of notes.
Breaks often went by the wayside if the workload was particularly heavy, patients came first(busy theatre days, large influx of emergencies, poorly patients) The work was not only physically draining but it was also traumatic at times - I am sure I don't need to outline just why...and sometimes if a staff member had been upset by an incident, then I would suggest they took 'five' - had a brew and a fag(If they were a smoker)...I think this is why my staff worked well for me.

Accyexplorer · 17-02-2014, 14:14

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Originally Posted by Less

Nit picking is good for him, it is what the inferior ape does to try and ingratiate itself with those higher in the group.

When you say "higher in the group" I assume you mean "the inner clique"

It may well be "what the inferior ape does",But as your part of a (evolved) civilized human race,you should really try an see others as equal not "higher" or lower than yourself

gpick24 · 17-02-2014, 14:20

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

The non smokers could brew up any time they wanted to...and we had the facilities on the ward to do so....but most of the nurses used to have a brew while they were doing the writing up of notes.
Breaks often went by the wayside if the workload was particularly heavy, patients came first(busy theatre days, large influx of emergencies, poorly patients) The work was not only physically draining but it was also traumatic at times - I am sure I don't need to outline just why...and sometimes if a staff member had been upset by an incident, then I would suggest they took 'five' - had a brew and a fag(If they were a smoker)...I think this is why my staff worked well for me.

Most likely, but these days you can`t just have a fag, you have to walk down to haslingden road to do it, and when you see people doing this when you`ve gone 10 hours with no dinner, brew or even a sit down, it does kind of wind you up slightly. Main reason she got off the wards as soon as she could. But it`s not just the NHS though, it`s exactly the same where I worked, constantly pulled up for being at the drink fountain (worked in over 100 degree heat most days) yet others are fagging it every hour without fail.

Less · 17-02-2014, 14:21

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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

When you say "higher in the group" I assume you mean "the inner clique"

It may well be "what the inferior ape does",But as your part of a (evolved) civilized human race,you should really try an see others as equal not "higher" or lower than yourself

Completely the wrong conclusion but expertly jumped to well done.

gpick24 · 17-02-2014, 14:24

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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

When you say "higher in the group" I assume you mean "the inner clique"

It may well be "what the inferior ape does",But as your part of a (evolved) civilized human race,you should really try an see others as equal not "higher" or lower than yourself

Oh-oh, Accyexplorer dropped the "C" bomb.

Accyexplorer · 17-02-2014, 14:27

[QUOTE=Less;1094819]Completely the wrong conclusion but expertly jumped to well done.

Margaret Pilkington · 17-02-2014, 15:07

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Originally Posted by gpick24

Most likely, but these days you can`t just have a fag, you have to walk down to haslingden road to do it, and when you see people doing this when you`ve gone 10 hours with no dinner, brew or even a sit down, it does kind of wind you up slightly. Main reason she got off the wards as soon as she could. But it`s not just the NHS though, it`s exactly the same where I worked, constantly pulled up for being at the drink fountain (worked in over 100 degree heat most days) yet others are fagging it every hour without fail.

We had a courtyard next to our wards and the staff used to go out there for a quick fag break.(it was permitted for staff to use these internal courtyards as long as they didn't leave their dog ends lying around)
It has to be stated that this was some time ago...I have been retired now for 11 years and my, unit as it was, moved over to Burnley,
I cannot say what it is like over there, but I do know that the work hasn't got any easier...and though I miss the interaction with patients, I am not sorry to be out of it.

I reckon I worked in the NHS at the very best of times. I certainly enjoyed my work and always enjoyed the challenges.

Michael1954 · 17-02-2014, 16:11

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Originally Posted by Neil

I have removed the BBC copy and paste as it is against the rules.

Why do these so called celebrities think that anyone cares what they think?

I have come to this thread late, so it opened at page 4 for me. See post 49, Neil. You have included the BBC link.

Less · 17-02-2014, 16:21

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Originally Posted by Michael1954

I have come to this thread late, so it opened at page 4 for me. See post 49, Neil. You have included the BBC link.

The link is allowed by the BBC what they don't allow is copying and pasting part of it's content.
They have threatened AccyWeb with legal action on a few occasions, that is why copy and paste from their sites isn't allowed.

Gordon Booth · 17-02-2014, 17:03

To get back to the ban- I think even the smokers would agree that smoking is expensive, unsociable(except in a group of smokers), stinks, ruins your decorations and is very bad for your health- lethal even.
The older ones on here started when smoking was sexy, romantic and almost compulsory. Hard to stop and I really can't think why anyone would ever want to start now the dangers are so clearly known.

BUT- I'm tired of various Governments being our nannies. Interfering in every little bit of our private lives, whether we are doing something silly or not. The idiots who smoke in their cars with their children will continue to do so- because they are idiots. The sensible ones don't need yet another almost unenforceable petty law. I wouldn't smoke in my car with adults, never mind children and when I do the sun roof is fully open(hate the smell!).

cashman · 17-02-2014, 17:07

Spot on wi that Gordon.