Smoking ban......(Hmmmm) - Page 9

joaner3 · 18-02-2014, 01:25

Yes Eric, everyone in Montreal will be going to the South shore to the Mohawks to buy them.

Margaret Pilkington · 18-02-2014, 07:51

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

To get back to the ban- I think even the smokers would agree that smoking is expensive, unsociable(except in a group of smokers), stinks, ruins your decorations and is very bad for your health- lethal even.
The older ones on here started when smoking was sexy, romantic and almost compulsory. Hard to stop and I really can't think why anyone would ever want to start now the dangers are so clearly known.

BUT- I'm tired of various Governments being our nannies. Interfering in every little bit of our private lives, whether we are doing something silly or not. The idiots who smoke in their cars with their children will continue to do so- because they are idiots. The sensible ones don't need yet another almost unenforceable petty law. I wouldn't smoke in my car with adults, never mind children and when I do the sun roof is fully open(hate the smell!).

For some reason, even though the dangers are well documented and spelled out very clearly, I regularly encounter young folk(maybe twelve or thirteen) smoking blatantly on their way home from school.....in school uniform with the name of the school clearly emblazoned on their jumper(very few of these children appear to possess a coat, even in the most inclement of weather).
Perhaps they are suffering from that thing that seems to afflict youth - they think they are immortal - that cancer and heart disease are what 'old folk' get.

When the smokers of my generation were children.......the 'bobby' would give you a cuff round the lug hole and take you home and tell your parents what he had stopped you from doing. You would then get a hiding from your father for doing the deed and an extra slap for having to be brought home by the 'bobby'.

So young smokers back then did it secretly.

Accyexplorer · 18-02-2014, 08:36

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

For some reason, even though the dangers are well documented and spelled out very clearly, I regularly encounter young folk(maybe twelve or thirteen) smoking blatantly on their way home from school.....in school uniform with the name of the school clearly emblazoned on their jumper(very few of these children appear to possess a coat, even in the most inclement of weather).
Perhaps they are suffering from that thing that seems to afflict youth - they think they are immortal - that cancer and heart disease are what 'old folk' get.

When the smokers of my generation were children.......the 'bobby' would give you a cuff round the lug hole and take you home and tell your parents what he had stopped you from doing. You would then get a hiding from your father for doing the deed and an extra slap for having to be brought home by the 'bobby'.

So young smokers back then did it secretly.

That's the problem with kids of today,they live in the "touch me and i'll sue you" era.
The "hiding","slap" you mentioned are pleasant words for the 'kicking' I got for bringing the police to the door ( I felt far from immortal)

(didn't happen again though)

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I believe education,not incrimination is the answer (maybe the odd "slap" to help it sink in)

cashman · 18-02-2014, 09:17

The way to educate should be a "SLAP" it sure educated me.

westendlass · 18-02-2014, 09:35

I definitely think that smoking is less of a problem now among school age kids than when I was a teenager, where, it seemed we were all 'fagging it'. As I regularly pass through the hoards of kids coming home from school when I'm on my way to work I very rarely see them smoking. Unfortunately, I got hooked on ciggies as a teenager but my kids,fortunately, grew up hating them and never took it up. I can also remember my mum (who was a smoker when I was small) always taking us upstairs on the bus where she could smoke and finding the smell disgusting, I used to feel sick with all the smoke. Even as a smoker, I'm glad I don't have to sit through that anymore.

Gordon Booth · 18-02-2014, 10:13

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Originally Posted by cashman

The way to educate should be a "SLAP" it sure educated me.

Didn't stop you though, did it?

Margaret Pilkington · 18-02-2014, 10:33

Gordon, you can't say that for sure. Who knows how bad he MIGHT have been without the chastening slap?

DtheP47 · 18-02-2014, 10:39

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

when I do the sun roof is fully open(hate the smell!).

You obviously don't live on the Somerset Levels then Gordon.

cashman · 18-02-2014, 10:58

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Didn't stop you though, did it?

Gee wish i knew as much as you!!! Please enlighten us all.

Eric · 19-02-2014, 14:11

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Originally Posted by joaner3

Yes Eric, everyone in Montreal will be going to the South shore to the Mohawks to buy them.

And fill up with gas while they are there

Maybe things would be better if we gave the country back to the First Nations ... or, at least, live up to the treaties we signed in order to get the land.

magpie · 19-02-2014, 23:57

well I don't have kids they are grown up... so I can smoke in my car when I want to: whatever next: sick of this nanny state we are in: one of the main reasons all the pubs are closed is because of the smoking ban.... ( I know there are others too)

Accyexplorer · 20-02-2014, 01:44

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Originally Posted by magpie

well I don't have kids they are grown up... so I can smoke in my car when I want to: whatever next: sick of this nanny state we are in: one of the main reasons all the pubs are closed is because of the smoking ban.... ( I know there are others too)

I prefer the term fascist dictatorship.
Personally I'm not that bothered if folk want to kill themselves it's upto them It's personal choice....(obviously smoking with a child in the car is wrong on many levels)
Let us smokers do our thing,as long as we are aware of the consequences and try not to pollute others already polluted air.

The politicians need to put as much effort as they do into turning us into submissive slaves,'cash cows' and concentrate on getting the country back on its feet.Many business's were effected with the last ban,pubs being high on the list.
We don't need telling smoking in a car with a child is ,child after all said an done a form of child abuse.like I've said before "I don't know anyone except my uncle who's actually done it"....

....Do you,Does anyone??

gpick24 · 20-02-2014, 07:39

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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

"I don't know anyone except my uncle who's actually done it"....

....Do you,Does anyone??

Yes.

Accyexplorer · 20-02-2014, 09:22

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Originally Posted by gpick24

Yes.

still?, to this day they smoke in their car with kids in?

Suppose there is always going to be the irresponsible parent,similar to there is always going to be the irresponsible dog owner.
Perhaps we could start name an shaming

gpick24 · 20-02-2014, 09:27

Yes, she doesn`t have kids herself, but nephews and younger sisters, if they want to come with her shopping (and they always do) then they have to put up with her smoking.