Smoking ban......(Hmmmm)

[Accyexplorer]

"Any person who lights up and smokes in front of a child is a prat, in my view, and we as a House should not be legislating on that"-Ian Paisley jnr.

Is a ban on smoking in vehicles (when children are present) the nanny state gone mad, or an important public health measure an Ecigs are a answer?.
Why should smokers be forced to smoke outside?,Whats next banning smoking in our own homes?
I supported the smoking ban when it was introduced around 2007, but now I think too many businesses (pubs,restaurants etc) suffered because of it .
I think there's much more damage being caused by the vehicles,for example,every flight leaving the airport is like pushing a pack of 20cigs down mother natures throat,the atmosphere is kinda an enclosed space too .

Have they a the hidden agenda?
Smoking in cars: the hidden agenda behind the ban | Zoe Williams | Comment is free | The Guardian

Whats your thoughts?

[gpick24]

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

"Any person who lights up and smokes in front of a child is a prat, in my view, and we as a House should not be legislating on that"-Ian Paisley jnr.

I think that`s pretty much spot on, trouble is, there are a lot of prats about who do need telling.

[cashman]

Prats i agree, but this is P.C. gone mad, Council workers are now told not to smoke "Before" even entering a tenants house. Ridiculous n stupid state of affairs n anyone who agrees its good,is just as stupid n pathetic in my view.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

"Any person who lights up and smokes in front of a child is a prat, in my view, and we as a House should not be legislating on that"-Ian Paisley jnr.

Is a ban on smoking in vehicles (when children are present) the nanny state gone mad, or an important public health measure an Ecigs are a answer?.
Why should smokers be forced to smoke outside?,Whats next banning smoking in our own homes?
I supported the smoking ban when it was introduced around 2007, but now I think too many businesses (pubs,restaurants etc) suffered because of it .
I think there's much more damage being caused by the vehicles,for example,every flight leaving the airport is like pushing a pack of 20cigs down mother natures throat,the atmosphere is kinda an enclosed space too .

Have they a the hidden agenda?
Smoking in cars: the hidden agenda behind the ban | Zoe Williams | Comment is free | The Guardian

Whats your thoughts?

I just quickly read that, did it mention a hidden agenda or are you trying to make us think there was one?

[gpick24]

Different situation Cashman, this is smoking in a confined space with children present, forcing them to breathe in cigarette smoke. Completely irresponsible in this day and age when everyone knows what damage smoking does.
Not that a ban will make the slightest difference. Anyone willing to do that to their own kids will take no notice of a ban anyway.

[cashman]

We are well aware of that, its stupid end of!! simple as, How on earth would such a ban be enforced?? Mobiles in cars being a good example. All this is to me is richardheads trying to score brownie points.

[Studio25]

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

...Is a ban on smoking in vehicles (when children are present) the nanny state gone mad...

No.

It is not possible to legislate against stupid* people having children, so you have to do the next best thing. People who are willing to smoke in a confined space with children present do not care about the child, so you need to hit them somewhere that they do care about, like their wallet.

* Couldn't think of a better word, sorry. It seems to best describe the heavily pregnant woman standing outside her front door in Great Harwood a week ago, having a fag. So she doesn't want the smell of cigarette smoke in her curtains and sofa, but the toxins polluting her unborn child are OK?

[Margaret Pilkington]

It is crazy. Banning smoking in cars(when children are present) is all very well but it will not be policed.
It is illegal to use a mobile whilst driving, but I see so many people doing this...and how many people are convicted? Not many I'll be bound.
Adults know that smoking in the presence of children is wrong(for a number of reasons)...but they still do it.
And is it any different from smoking while sat in the living room with your child...the area may be bigger but the exposure to cigarette smoke is still there.

The government get far too much into its coffers to come out and ban smoking outright.
And though I do not trust statistics, I read that now there are only one if five people who smoke conventional cigarettes.

[Less]

"Any person who lights up and smokes in front of a child is a prat, in my view, and we as a House should not be legislating on that"-Ian Paisley jnr.

Any person that brings a child into a designated smoking area then complains is a bigger prat.

One nice warm summers day a woman brought her brood outside sat at a table in the middle of a crowded smoking area and complained to all that could hear about the smoky atmosphere she and her children were having to endure.
I explained to her that she was in a smoking area and that as a non smoker she had the run of the inside of the establishment but out here belongs to the smokers, she stayed drinking large quantities of alcohol allowing her children to run riot with no parental guidance until she was well and truly smashed, then staggered off supposedly responsible for the children, now, that's a prat!

[Accyexplorer]

I wouldnt smoke with a child in the car (but i use my Ecig).
Its just country seems a far more feeble place than it use to be,Everything is getting banned or regulated.
It must be rather dismal to be a kid in todays age with all the banned, regulated behavior in place.

selfish,dangerous? perhaps, but life was more exciting when I could sit in the back of my uncles old ford escort(without a belt),while he smoked about 15 woodbine on the way to Bpool (with the windows up) at 80mph.
Even if it was less healthier/safe.

"Secondhand smoke causes numerous health problems in infants and children, including severe asthma attacks,
respiratory infections, ear infections, and sudden infant death syndrome, Some of the health conditions caused by secondhand smoke in adults include heart disease and lung cancer"-
CDC - Fact Sheet - Health Effects of Secondhand Smoke - Smoking & Tobacco Use.

Its true but like cashman says its just "richardheads scoring brownie points".



Coming soon to a school near you:

Cameras on poles outside schools to catch folk smoking with kids in the car.
Penelty: £50 fine and points on your licence.
Get caught with a king edward and you might get banned from driving

[Margaret Pilkington]

Some people only have spit for brains!

[cashman]

They could always put cameras on Union Rd Ossy n catch "KIDS" smoking on the way to school, ive seen quite a few.

[Accyexplorer]

Originally Posted by Neil

I just quickly read that, did it mention a hidden agenda or are you trying to make us think there was one?

Just throwing it in the pot

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

I wouldnt smoke with a child in the car (but i use my Ecig).....

Do you have any idea what is in that Ecig you are sucking on?

[Less]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Some people only have spit for brains!

Yes they do and the easier computers get to use, more of them tend to consider AccyWeb their home. Bring back Windows 95 that will stop them getting online.