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entwisi · 20-04-2011, 21:32

you can get it for less...

7" Google-Android Tablet PC, eBook Reader, Cam, WiFi/3G | eBay UK

its not a lot of money for what you get but its a very generic piece of kit so support will be a nightmare should you have any problems or queries, you certainly shouldn't expect any firmware updates.

I've looked for any background info and this company make many similar models with all sorts of differing specs. Its hard to find much real info so to me I'd ask teh following Questions of the seller

whats the maximum memory that can be used on this? ( look for answers of 16 Gig or higher)
is the display a capacitive(better in this case) or resistive(worse in this case) touchscreen?
has it full access to the Android market( what happens if an app need s telephony/3G access to run)?

If you are looking to use specific apps such as e-readers ( Kindle, kobo etc ), games, you mentioned the children ( Angry birds is superb, siobhan loves it and there are lots of educational games on android such as memory games, colouring games, etc) then ask specifically if it will run those apps. keep any emails as proof for sale of goods act.

If you do buy using the BIN price, pay directly by credit card(AVOID Paypal if at all possible) as anything over 100 pounds gives protection under the credit act

IN honesty, its cheap so dont expect Dell or samsung levels of support or buld quality but it doesn't look a bad deal

Margaret Pilkington · 21-04-2011, 06:33

Entwisi, I have looked at the things you suggested(and before you suggested them too...so I guess I am not that much of a numpty eh)...the memory is upgradeable to 32 gb via a Tf card, the screen is capacitive, rather than resistive.......and it is supposed to have full access to android apps. It also has Flash 10.1 which many of these small tablets do not support.
It says in the listing that it support the e-reader apps....and you know that on e-bay if the seller misrepresents then you can take action against them( I have done this in the past, successfully).......as for using my credit card.......I'm not sure about that.......Paypal do offer protection(again, I have tested this out, with the same successful case).

I would not expect Dell quality for this price........my theory in life is you gets what you pay for............Thank you for taking the time to give me the advice, it is, as always very much appreciated.

Restless · 22-04-2011, 00:35

can get a good look at the haipad in this video

Restless · 22-04-2011, 00:38

not sure if this is actually the same model, looks a little different. But gives you an idea iguess

Margaret Pilkington · 22-04-2011, 09:54

Thanks for that Restless........I think the one I gave the link for is perhaps a different model, as it has a capacitive screen. Battery life is said to be 7 hours(it doesn't say whether this in standby mode...but I would suspect that it is)
To be fair,it isn't a lot of money and the guy on the video seems to constantly be comparing it to the iPad...if you haven't used an ipad then you have not got that comparison to make.
I am sure that something like this would be adequate for my requirements......and there are cheaper versions available(but from Taiwan - which I guess is where they all originate from).
Thank you again for your input......most helpful.

Restless · 22-04-2011, 11:06

Yeah he does compare it a lot to the ipad. But I guess thats what they are trying to do with this particular model is to copy the ipad but have the android approach rather than mac.

this is the one you was looking at

Still the UI looks jerky and slow. I would recommend against buying one of these if you have little patience

Restless · 22-04-2011, 11:24

you know its really hard to say for the price
7" ANDROID TABLET PC EPAD APAD WIFI CAM HDMI DUAL CORE | eBay UK

£100 Sounds good doesn't it? It appears that there are many different types of basically the same machine. Some say they have 800MHZ singlecore processor(like a pc from late 90's or so) and this one apparently has a dualcore processor, should be a lot better but i wouldn't trust these things as far as i could throw them. Look how many of these sellers have of these... "more than 10 available" I think you would have a headache buying one of these.

If an E-Reader is all you want, then go with the new Kindle. Everybody I know that has one loves them to bits.

Margaret Pilkington · 22-04-2011, 11:34

It would have been nice to see if they have recessed the tf card slot........that would worry me a bit because I would use for the children to read from, as well as using it as a book reader myself(which would be the main use)....you know what little meddlers children can be.

I am going to research as much as possible before I spend my dosh....but I think that I am probably not as....erm, picky(discerning), as the uses I have planned for this item are not perhaps as wide as you would want from and iPad( I wouldn't buy any Apple product.......I think they are rip off merchants and they pander to those who want show off their stgatus symbols...just my opinion, you understand)....and I am not bothered about it being a status thing......I just want something functional. I can wait...no hurry.

Margaret Pilkington · 22-04-2011, 11:45

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Originally Posted by Restless

you know its really hard to say for the price
7" ANDROID TABLET PC EPAD APAD WIFI CAM HDMI DUAL CORE | eBay UK

If an E-Reader is all you want, then go with the new Kindle. Everybody I know that has one loves them to bits.

I looked at that one too, but it doesn't support Flash 10.1.......so I consigned that to the 'no' pile. I am also unsure whether the touch screen is capacitive.

Kindle is fine for adult readers, but it doesn't inspire child readers, and I am trying to get my daughters two children into the reading habit....they are both interested in reading, but are at the stage where colourful illustrations are needed to stimulate their attention(5years and 7 years).

The other thing I find a bit of a drawback with Kindle is that it only accepts books bought on Amazon......or that is what I have been told.
So Amazon are onto a good thing. Sell the Kindle and you have a ready made market of readers for as long as they keep the Kindle.

So perhaps I am maybe more picky ( discerning) that I led you to believe.

Restless · 22-04-2011, 11:55

I have a had a 6 year love-hate relationship with apple. As I listen to a lot of music and audiobooks via headphones, I was rather fond of my ipods. If you like listening to live concerts or those horrible dance albums and want the tracks to link together, ipod are the only walkmans out there that i know of that are capable of true gapless playback.

Gapless playback

''audible" audiobook support. ; good thing about this is that long audio files, such as 9hour files you can bookmark where you are. Also on ipod now when you drop large files onto it you can use itunes to change media type and choose audiobook = You can pick up CD audiobooks and convert them into long files and drop them in single files with the bookmark function. Ha nothing worse than an audiobook on a walkman and you turn it off and you have to find where you was and/or having it split up into 2000 parts

Though lots of walkmans support audible files and bookmarking, not many support bookmarking of mp3 files. Also for much the same reason as you not buying an apple product, I will never be a member of audible. They think they encrypt their product so tightly that it cant be converted. But paying for the digital download you should be entitled to convert how you want.

Cons

Battery life -10-15 hours on most of their hard drive base ipods(in my experience)

Battery Replacement - Ipods, Iphones... want to replace your battery? Forget it. They want £££ and you may and well you may as well buy a new player

No FLAC support on any of their products... Who wants to use Apple Lossless??

Headphones Official apple headphones find themselves in the rubbish basket. They have awful sound and are so uncomfortable.

Sound quality overall sound quality is lower than other players such as sony and phillips... of course you need a decent pair of headphones

Flimsy socket for headphones. How many people have I heard of have their headphone socket bust on them? Damn Lately this happened to me. Apple want £90 to fix it My ipod classic cost me £160. Before that I had 5.5G Ipod and the Hard Drive failed after Warranty runs out

NINETY POUND. Screw you Apple

Margaret Pilkington · 22-04-2011, 11:59

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I looked at that one too, but it doesn't support Flash 10.1.......so I consigned that to the 'no' pile. I am also unsure whether the touch screen is capacitive.

Kindle is fine for adult readers, but it doesn't inspire child readers, and I am trying to get my daughters two children into the reading habit....they are both interested in reading, but are at the stage where colourful illustrations are needed to stimulate their attention(5years and 7 years).

The other thing I find a bit of a drawback with Kindle is that it only accepts books bought on Amazon......or that is what I have been told.
So Amazon are onto a good thing. Sell the Kindle and you have a ready made market of readers for as long as they keep the Kindle.

So perhaps I am maybe more picky ( discerning) that I led you to believe.

I have just checked out that APad again and it has a resistive screen......which is why it went in the 'no' pile too.
Honestly, I have looked at so many of the darn things.....I think the one I posted came the nearest for specs, and of course price.

Restless · 22-04-2011, 11:59

I haven't looked that much into kindles so im not sure about the kindle only accepting books from amazon, but that would put me off 100% And it wouldn't surprise me if that was the case. Like Audible. When my Ipod bust on me I got Phillips GoGear Muse. Awesome sound quality, Flac Support but no gapless and the audiobook function is locked out to Audible only

Yeah. Kindles seem bit hmm boring.... I wouldn't have one myself.

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I looked at that one too, but it doesn't support Flash 10.1.......so I consigned that to the 'no' pile. I am also unsure whether the touch screen is capacitive.

Kindle is fine for adult readers, but it doesn't inspire child readers, and I am trying to get my daughters two children into the reading habit....they are both interested in reading, but are at the stage where colourful illustrations are needed to stimulate their attention(5years and 7 years).

The other thing I find a bit of a drawback with Kindle is that it only accepts books bought on Amazon......or that is what I have been told.
So Amazon are onto a good thing. Sell the Kindle and you have a ready made market of readers for as long as they keep the Kindle.

So perhaps I am maybe more picky ( discerning) that I led you to believe.

Margaret Pilkington · 22-04-2011, 12:04

This is the vesrion I have looked at Restless....the UI doesn't look that bad to me......but what do I know

Restless · 22-04-2011, 12:05

Oh yeah looks a lot nicer now in that video. Still a bit jerky. Im just fussy. Its like the pc's in my house. My housemates pc is old and using it is infuriating after using my pc (quad core processor, 4gb memory etc)

oh I hadn't noticed the specs on the screen. Was for comparison only.

But price is good, and if it works like it should... should be a good buy.

Margaret Pilkington · 22-04-2011, 12:13

On the You tube thing it says it is a Samsung processor too.