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15-04-2011, 16:46
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What's a lodge to you?
What, besides these meanings...
definition of lodge from Oxford Dictionaries Online
do you understand by the word lodge?
In this part of the world, and certainly to me, it means a body of water, along with the other meanings.
Probably man-made, to supply water for the textile industry, though it could also be a not very large, water-filled quarry. A lodge is larger than a pond, but smaller than a lake.
To me it's a word in fairly common usage in Lancashire, and the north, but can find no reference in any dictionary to a lodge being a place filled with water.
Do you call a small body of water a lodge?
How far away from this area does it stop being called a lodge, and is named something else?
Why isn't recorded in the dictionary? There are certainly more obscure uses of words recorded in most lexicons.
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15-04-2011, 17:00
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Re: What's a lodge to you?
Karma for anyone who can find lodge, meaning a body of water, in any dictionary, because I can't.
lodge - dictionary definitions
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15-04-2011, 17:03
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Re: What's a lodge to you?
Lodge definitions to me off hand are :- A type of cabin, accommodation - When something gets stuck/wedged - A meeting place for societies Masons/Buffs & the Orange lodge Protestant marchers - A beavers (the furry tree chewing ones you potential smart arses) home - Something done to register a complaint - If you stay at someones' home & pay a fee.
Those are what come to mind without recourse to a dictionary or something similar, but I can't ever say I've heard it used to define a body of water, the closest association would be the hairy tree chewers home the lodge on or at the lake.
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15-04-2011, 17:09
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Re: What's a lodge to you?
I always knew them as the Mill Lodges and the following is from Wikipedia
Mill lodge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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15-04-2011, 17:11
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Re: What's a lodge to you?
Nope, can't find it in any dictionary I own (not even Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase & Fable, which has loads of obscure stuff) Always assumed it was an English language word for a small lake but apparently not!!
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15-04-2011, 17:17
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Re: What's a lodge to you?
Dus tha' no, Garinda .... thas reet !
Never looked to see if this word was in the Dictionary.
What I did come across, in my travels around the U.K., was that when describing where I lived ... 'at the back of a lodge', the puzzled looks and questions of the main house took me back for a while. Soon learnt to explain my meaning of lodge before carrying on with further descriptions ...
It appears to be only found in some Lancashire Dialect dictionaries.
Obviously, is a word that was born during the textile industry for the small expanse of water that supported the mills. Man made.
They say if a word is used often enough, then the dicionaries will accept it. I am sure that most of Lancashire understands this meaning, and suggest you write to them at once...
Karma to you, sir, for pointing this out.
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15-04-2011, 17:18
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Re: What's a lodge to you?
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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany
Lodge definitions to me off hand are :- A type of cabin, accommodation - When something gets stuck/wedged - A meeting place for societies Masons/Buffs & the Orange lodge Protestant marchers - A beavers (the furry tree chewing ones you potential smart arses) home - Something done to register a complaint - If you stay at someones' home & pay a fee.
Those are what come to mind without recourse to a dictionary or something similar, but I can't ever say I've heard it used to define a body of water, the closest association would be the hairy tree chewers home the lodge on or at the lake.
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Heres reference to a local one Haggs Lodge Accrington - FishingMagic Forums
I've always known it has Haggs lodge, theres no cabins, accommodation, dare say theres a few things stuck down there though
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15-04-2011, 17:26
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Re: What's a lodge to you?
i'd say much more than a few THINGS
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15-04-2011, 17:49
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Re: What's a lodge to you?
Mayhap the actual water was so called "Lodge", I mean you've got Priory, Swaffam, Conniston & Windemere & these are lakes/waters/meres, so instead of it being a generic term, it was probably more definitive & indicating a particular water.
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15-04-2011, 17:50
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Re: What's a lodge to you?
Think it's probably a "localism" ... just a guess: but as there are many Anglo-Saxon, or early Germanic words still in the dialect ("hu" instead of "she", for example), it might be found there. But, I don't have time to check out my guess 'cause I'm knocking on doors today, trying to drum up support for the local NDP candidate in the upcoming election.
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15-04-2011, 17:57
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Re: What's a lodge to you?
Mill lodges(well, the ones I know of) always seem to be man made, and were to support the needs of industry - mainly cotton mills.
Highams Mill that was, had a brook running along the back of it but there was still a good sized mill lodge close by.
Ewbank was near the Hagg lodge.
There was a lodge near Howard and Bulloughs.
There is a lodge near Ossy Mills.
Maybe it is a Lancastrian thing.......linked to cotton weaving.
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15-04-2011, 17:59
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Re: What's a lodge to you?
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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany
Mayhap the actual water was so called "Lodge", I mean you've got Priory, Swaffam, Conniston & Windemere & these are lakes/waters/meres, so instead of it being a generic term, it was probably more definitive & indicating a particular water.
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No, it refers to any small man-made body of water.
There are lots around here. All created to provide water for the textile industry.
I can sit in bed and look down on three.
They don't have individual names. At least that I know.
When I was at college in Liverpool lodge, as a water body, drew the same blank stares as ginnel did when I spoke of those in London.
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15-04-2011, 18:07
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Re: What's a lodge to you?
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Originally Posted by garinda
I can sit in bed and look down on three.
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They're referred to as lodges on the Wildlife Trust website.
Lancashire Wildlife Trust - Places to See - Foxhill Bank Nature Reserve from the Wildlife Trust for Lancashire, Manchester and North Merseyside
Even if it is regional, and confined to Lancashire and Yorkshire, it should be in the dictionary.
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15-04-2011, 18:09
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Re: What's a lodge to you?
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15-04-2011, 18:10
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Re: What's a lodge to you?
Roget"s International Thesaurus 3rd edition ........658. 10
verb , store,stow .........deposit, lodge,cache...coffer,warehouse, reservoir:
would have thought coffer (as in coffer dam) warehouse and reservoir, were all nouns
Eric in Canada is the English expert , he should be able to explain
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