When is the 2nd Coming - Coming?

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by davemac

Just a slight interjection with regard to the bible. At the start of the thread the bible was held up to be the word of god, it is far from that, it is in fact comprised of contributions from 40 authors.

The bible came into existence when the council of Nicaea set about compiling gospels to unite the Christians with a single book. Emperor Constantine (274-337) (emperor from 306-337) ordered it to search out and include all the gospels that supported and professed to be the word of god. Its interesting that the gospel according to Judas wasn't included.

So the bible is 66 gospels by 40 authors, compiled and turned into one book in the year 325 ad, that is 325 years after the man called Jesus was walking the earth. So it is not the word of god, but the word of 40 people who wrote gospels over a period of 1500 years, hence the old and new testaments.

I write this not to say definitively whether god exists or not, just to correct the statement that the bible is the word of god, and if people knock on your door saying it is, then they are starting with a lie.

Right thats all I can manage for now, all this serious stuff gives me a bout of giddiness

At this stage you usually go and lie down in a dark room Dave

[davemac]

Originally Posted by Restless

question I ask my dad and then he asks the rather silly question about the chicken/egg

If you ask that question then you haven't understood evolution, but that is a whole new thread.

[davemac]

Originally Posted by jaysay

At this stage you usually go and lie down in a dark room Dave

Thats when I get a full head of steam up along with my dander, it hasn't occurred yet on this thread.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by davemac

. Well who made god ?

In the churning, bubbling, seething, mass which was the primordial soup of life, the early pondlife ganged up together to produce the first proto-amphibian, who decided that swilling round in your own muck was pretty yucky & as such growing a pair of legs & getting out of the gloop seemed like a damned fine idea.

So it came to be that the first homunculus set foot on solid ground, going forth & meeting other like minded homunculi & thereby forming loose social groups to better advance their cause, proliferate the species, exchange ideas & just generally evolve (all the while staying dry & far from the cess pool that spawned them) .

As with any gathering tales are told & myths exchanged & when asked about origin rather that admit to being the result of pond life getting a life so to speak, an omnipresent & omnipotent super being was credited as being the source of all creation. Thereby early man was learning to pass the buck & inaugurate the rise of the political classes, leaving behind those less inclined to lies & perfidy to become the common folk (which by the way are further sub divided into other groups, but that is a lecture for another day.)


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[davemac]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

In the churning, bubbling, seething, mass which was the primordial soup of life, the early pondlife ganged up together to produce the first proto-amphibian, who decided that swilling round in your own muck was pretty yucky & as such growing a pair of legs & getting out of the gloop seemed like a damned fine idea.

So it came to be that the first homunculus set foot on solid ground, going forth & meeting other like minded homunculi & thereby forming loose social groups to better advance their cause, proliferate the species, exchange ideas & just generally evolve (all the while staying dry & far from the cess pool that spawned them) .

As with any gathering tales are told & myths exchanged & when asked about origin rather that admit to being the result of pond life getting a life so to speak, an omnipresent & omnipotent super being was credited as being the source of all creation. Thereby early man was learning to pass the buck & inaugurate the rise of the political classes, leaving behind those less inclined to lies & perfidy to become the common folk (which by the way are further sub divided into other groups, but that is a lecture for another day.)


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It wasn't really a question I wanted and answer to, more a thought provoker for those inclined to knock and evangelise on my doorstep, but thanks for the effort.
I have questioned the religious things that are taught and people have accepted without thinking if they are true, or just indoctrinated into. Religion has had over 2000 years to get its story right, but still bases its foundations on information that is not correct, I think lies is not the right word, as a lie is saying something that is not true, whereas repeating what you have been told is true is not directly a lie.
Emperor Constantine, who was Roman, started the foundation for religion and its teachings that are present today, and it is no surprise that the Roman empire did not cease to exist, it merely morphed into the Catholic Church.
But I like the thoery that I started my journey as glob of goo.

[accyman]

Originally Posted by davemac

A question they wont or can't answer, when they say, in the beginning there was nothing, and god made the heaven and the earth. Well who made god ?

a dog walked past a mirror and thats how god was created

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by davemac

It wasn't really a question I wanted and answer to,

That's good Dave, because I had no intention of seriously answering.

But I like the thoery that I started my journey as glob of goo.

Yeah, me too, there's something inherently basic, honest & earthy about being a dollop of something unidentifiable.

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by davemac

But I like the thoery that I started my journey as glob of goo.

When you think about it that's pretty much how you'll end it as well.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

When you think about it that's pretty much how you'll end it as well.

Well yeah, as long as some nuclear rocket owning loony doesn't get there first, because then it'll be more a sort of crispy, crunchy, frazzled experience if not outright vaporization.

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by davemac

If you ask that question then you haven't understood evolution, but that is a whole new thread.

Evolution explains it, but how did the potential for evolution come into place - how did that come about - there are massive gaps in our knowledge about this? Some Christians believed that the earth was created by the Devil and it was the devil who created sex and animals and so on - and the way to get back to god was to thrash yourself on a daily basis.

[Less]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

Evolution explains it, but how did the potential for evolution come into place - how did that come about - there are massive gaps in our knowledge about this? Some Christians believed that the earth was created by the Devil and it was the devil who created sex and animals and so on - and the way to get back to god was to thrash yourself on a daily basis.

For you there are plenty of gaps and very little knowledge!

[Boeing Guy]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

the way to get back to god was to thrash yourself on a daily basis.

Some people feel the need to employ Mistresses like Cynthia Payne or even some of Heidi Fliess's girls to administer beatings

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

the way to get back to god was to thrash yourself on a daily basis.

If there's ever a day you don't feel up to it give me a shout- I'll gladly help out.

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

If there's ever a day you don't feel up to it give me a shout- I'll gladly help out.

But I don't believe in god mate - so I don't partake in such activities!

[Less]

Originally Posted by davemac

Emperor Constantine, who was Roman, started the foundation for religion and its teachings that are present today, and it is no surprise that the Roman empire did not cease to exist, it merely morphed into the Catholic Church.
But I like the thoery that I started my journey as glob of goo.

Isn't he the one that became a Christian for political reasons as an attempt to unify the Roman empire?
I seem to have read/seen a documentary, his mum was keen on the idea as well, let's get everything under one roof it will be easier to rule that way.