Where is Hyndburn going?

[cashman]

Ossy mills still seems to do very well.people still come from all oer, we call in at least a couple of times a week, no set days or pattern of time, and its never dead, We can have just come from a quiet accy centre on the way home n ossy mills is pretty busy. Which i would imagine "Bogtrotter"is aware of that fact, cos he lives in ossy also,

[Margaret Pilkington]

Ossy mills is still busy by dint of the fact that coach companies use it as one of their excursions.....and sometimes there are three or four coaches there at a time.
I know that Ma and I were on a coach holiday in St Anne's and one of the trips out was to Ossy Mills.....Ma said she would give that the swerve and go on the prom instead.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Ossy mills is still busy by dint of the fact that coach companies use it as one of their excursions.....and sometimes there are three or four coaches there at a time.
I know that Ma and I were on a coach holiday in St Anne's and one of the trips out was to Ossy Mills.....Ma said she would give that the swerve and go on the prom instead.

Thats the point i'm trying to make, its cos ossy mills is worth a visit i reckon.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Well, Cashy those on the coach tours are a captive audience.....many go because they want to feel they have got their money's worth.
I know there are times when I have been hauled along to the Pringles centre on Anglesey....not because I actually wanted to go there,but because there were other elements of the day trip that I did want to see.....and I could not do the one I wanted unless I went along to the Pringles centre.....which,like many of these outlets,is overpriced.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Well, Cashy those on the coach tours are a captive audience.....many go because they want to feel they have got their money's worth.
I know there are times when I have been hauled along to the Pringles centre on Anglesey....not because I actually wanted to go there,but because there were other elements of the day trip that I did want to see.....and I could not do the one I wanted unless I went along to the Pringles centre.....which,like many of these outlets,is overpriced.

Aye Margaret, but me point is How many coach tours pop off at accy centre as part of the trip? also we have spoken too quite a few that have come oer in the car pretty regular, we nearly always walk unless we been down accy, cos its hard work parking yon and theres plenty of spaces.

[Margaret Pilkington]

None...to my knowledge.
I do think that Ossy mills is one of the better outlets...and you can always find something in there that tickles your fancy...even if it is only Coltsfoot rock or Sarsaparilla drops

[westendlass]

A few years ago, whilst on holiday in Mablethorpe in Lincolnshire, I spotted a poster in the window of a coach company advertising an excursion to Ossy Mills. That's a fair old drive, I was surprised people would travel so far to come to Oswaldtwistle.

[Morecambe Ex Pat]

Those advertisements could easily have been to:- Accrington, "Traditional Victorian Market Town and Handicraft Outlet' if you had been blessed with Councillors with vision.

We have a Council here in Morecambe, with a similar mindset and they are looking to create a wonderful new shopping area on what used to be Frontierland. This will benefit the larger chain stores, who could afford the high rents but do nothing for the smaller, independent retailers who give any town it's unique character.

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by bogtrotter

We have recently had the sad news that several major retailers are moving out of town - including Marks and Spencers, Homebase and Morrisons. I constantly here people saying that the town centre is run down and in decline. True - maybe it has seen better times but one thing the area has goy is a proud heritage and great people. I sometimes think we are too quick to put our town down. We have some great buildings and great country side and many green spaces are being made more accessible to the general public. We are also a multiracial community which, on the whole gets on well and shows a lot of mutual respect.

So lets try and look at some of the positives and try and reduce some of the negatives and maybe we can help take out great town forward.

And which "Cloud Cuckoo Land" do you inhabit?

[hyndburner]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

and it is Accrington - not Hyndburn

With six words and a hyphen, Margaret encapsulates what is the root of EVERYTHING that has gone wrong over the past 40 years.

A silly council with silly boundaries. A collection of townships with a mutual hatred and mistrust of each other bound together by the name of a stream nobody has ever heard of or used. Totally irrelevant as an entity to most citizens. Totally anonymous to anyone outside the area.

40 years of blurred thinking, confused corporate vision, and zero political investment in the future. Two party squabbling over the minutiae of local point scoring, and an area left out in the cold when the serious money is distributed.

And a Hyndburn town centre (Hyndburn, Margaret, not Accrington - that is what we were saddled with in 1974, and where on earth is the town centre of Oswaldtwistle, Church, Clayton or Huncoat?) that is paying the price of 40 years befuddlement.

[Margaret Pilkington]

It is Accrington which has the heritage.....not Hyndburn.
Hyndburn is an invention.......and as you so rightly observe Hyndburner, that is when things started to go badly awry.
A conglomeration of small towns that didn't identify with this name but were lumped together for convenience.
If you mention Accrington, there is a fair chance that people know what area you are referring to, but mention Hyndburn and all you get is a blank expression

Hyndburner, I agree with everything in your last post.....well said!

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by hyndburner

distributed.

And a Hyndburn town centre (Hyndburn, Margaret, not Accrington - that is what we were saddled with in 1974, and where on earth is the town centre of Oswaldtwistle, Church, Clayton or Huncoat?) that is paying the price of 40 years befuddlement.

They're all villages. Hyndburn with Accrington(a town) as its centre of administration shouldn't be a problem- if it was properly run!

Have you seen the size of Chorley Rural District- it covers a vast area(78 square miles)and includes 23 parishes- many of them quite large successful villages. And yet it works and Chorley the Town thrives.

Hyndburn is only 28 square miles, quite compact. It has 35 councillors, Chorley manages with 47.

What puzzles me is that in 2010 The Times voted it 'the 10th best public sector to work in'! I can only assume the lack of leadership,effective forward planning and drive from the councillors meant that the council staff found it a lovely, relaxed, laid back place to work in- and still do.

Meanwhile Accrington and Hyndburn slowly disintegrated.

[Less]

It is a false name, just as Greater Manchester is, people living in Wigan for example still put Wigan Lanc's and other towns do similar, guess what? Their mail still gets delivered!

[accyman]

we had an indoor market and an outdoor market we didnt need the arndale which the council proved themselves when they built witebirk so that the majority of shops in the arndale could sod off to whitebirk leaving accy in their distant rear view mirrors.

accy center has been allowed to die a slow death ,the trade has been killed , the night life has been killed and theres practically no law presence in town as is clear by what is allowed to roam around it shouting abuse at each other and urinating in the bus shelters

[Less]

Originally Posted by accyman

accy center has been allowed to die a slow death ,the trade has been killed , the night life has been killed and theres practically no law presence in town as is clear by what is allowed to roam around it shouting abuse at each other and urinating in the bus shelters

Coming soon to a Hyndburn near you, a brand new bus station for them to urinate in.