whereabouts of sex offenders.

cashman · 19-06-2006, 11:30

see the goverment are considering listing where sex offenders live, if they live near schools etc,as they do in the usa. this is totally un-necessary these perverts shoud (a) be castrated. (b) never be realeased into society. this removes the problem of vigilantes etc. who are misguided but i understand where they are coming from. simple answer= THROW THE BLOODY KEY AWAY.

Mick · 19-06-2006, 12:26

Here's a link that you might like to see

http://www.forsarah.com/html/sarahslaw.html

entwisi · 19-06-2006, 12:48

This seems to be coming at a very apt time for me to think about this. An old teacher of mine was convicted last week of fiddling with a couple of kids, one of which is someone who was in my year at school and this happened when I was also being taught by this guy. Now I've looked but can't find any reference to the victims name. If I'm honest and think back I can't see or recall anything that rang any alarm bells back then. In fact the teacher concerned was actually the sort that was the butt of jokes and not one that a kid in my year would have felt compelled to do what has been alleged.

On top of that another bloke(the father of some friends) has also been found guilty of fiddling back 20 years ago. Again, Whilst not casting dispersions it does seem almost unbelieveable as I spent time in this house. I guess you really can't see what goes on in some houses.

Now when it comes to punishment I'm with all those who think that kiddie fiddling is abhorent and should be dealt with as strongly as possible. what is really freaking me is at this moment it affects two people I would never have thought were doing this.

garinda · 19-06-2006, 12:59

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Originally Posted by entwisi

This seems to be coming at a very apt time for me to think about this. An old teacher of mine was convicted last week of fiddling with a couple of kids, one of which is someone who was in my year at school and this happened when I was also being taught by this guy. Now I've looked but can't find any reference to the victims name. If I'm honest and think back I can't see or recall anything that rang any alarm bells back then. In fact the teacher concerned was actually the sort that was the butt of jokes and not one that a kid in my year would have felt compelled to do what has been alleged.

On top of that another bloke(the father of some friends) has also been found guilty of fiddling back 20 years ago. Again, Whilst not casting dispersions it does seem almost unbelieveable as I spent time in this house. I guess you really can't see what goes on in some houses.

Now when it comes to punishment I'm with all those who think that kiddie fiddling is abhorent and should be dealt with as strongly as possible. what is really freaking me is at this moment it affects two people I would never have thought were doing this.

I know someone else he taught, now a teacher thermselves, who went to court for him as a character witness. That person is now horrified at what this person did.

I think the victims that went to court to get these bastards punished have been very brave. I hope they find some closure and some peace in the rest of their lives.

entwisi · 19-06-2006, 13:08

Has Mr Hunt admitted it now? I thought he was still maintaining innocence?

garinda · 19-06-2006, 13:11

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Originally Posted by entwisi

Has Mr Hunt admitted it now? I thought he was still maintaining innocence?

It was in Friday's LET that he's been found guilty and is awaiting sentence, though the judge said it will be custodial.

http://www.lancashireeveningtelegrap...ed_at_last.php

entwisi · 19-06-2006, 13:35

Theres a big difference between being found guilty and maintaining innocence although teh amount o allegations does seem to be overwhelming.

What I find a bit strange are the quotes from the victim. It almost reads as if the whole bad 10 years since are being put on Hunts head and that the victim is taking no responsibility for any of it. The "We've finally nailed him" sounds totally unnatural response to me.

cashman · 19-06-2006, 14:53

read micks link, can anyone nevermind blunkett, be 100% CERTAIN these animals will never again be a threat if they are released? sorry i say NO.

who_eat_all_the_pies · 20-06-2006, 11:09

Don't know if you knew this but sex offenders are being kept in Accrington in the Woodnook area near Bullough Park and have been doing so for quite sometime without the residents knowledge as the goverment know that it will cause uproar in the community if this gets out but I think everyone knows now

Madhatter · 20-06-2006, 13:27

I don't agree with this, because the sex offenders register doesn't just contain peodophiles, it contains for example a 17 yr old that has had consentuall sex with a 15 yr old, but her parents made a complaint. It lumps all sexual offences in together, if your going to start giving out details about who is on it, then it should either say why they are on it or lesser offences should be moved to a different category.

jackyalex · 21-06-2006, 08:49

in my eyes a child is a child,even if it is consentuall its still against the law.the law needs to be changed aswell,you get more time if you rob a bank than if you sexually abuse a child,is that the law telling us money is more important than our kids,until 16 our children are innosent unless you get a filthy predator about,and dont forget its not only strangers that are sex offenders it can also be people you know,its more common than you think but sometimes goes ignored

Neil · 21-06-2006, 09:24

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until 16 our children are innosent

I don't believe that is true. How many of you on here had sex before 16? Maybe a poll would be interesting. If you did have sex before you were 16 then legally you were sexual abused. Are you now going to get the police involved because you were 15 and your boyfriend/girlfriend was 16? I agree that sex crime is very serious and that the punishments are never severe enough. Just becareful before you want to start making public lists before you know what will be on them as stated below.

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Originally Posted by Madhatter

I don't agree with this, because the sex offenders register doesn't just contain peodophiles, it contains for example a 17 yr old that has had consentuall sex with a 15 yr old, but her parents made a complaint.

andrewb · 21-06-2006, 09:34

Correct me if im wrong, but you can be placed on the sex offenders register if both children are 15, to have your name published and your location, the 'mob' will automaticly assume you have abused young children and theres no doubt in my mind that these people will be persecuted for the rest of their lives (if they live very long). To be frank, I don't think even the REAL sex offenders whereabouts should be known, the police simply have to be stricter. If the offender has faced his time (or half time is it.. pathetic) but still poses a risk to children then they SHOULD NOT BE LET OUT.

I don't really believe in vigilante, at least in this case, where it's not so black and white, and some of the general public are too stupid to know the difference between a pedophile and pediatrician.

jackyalex · 21-06-2006, 10:05

there is a difference between being consensuall and being too scared to say no when you are under 16,at 17 you should know that you cant have sex with a minor,knowing most of us did have sex under 16 usually with someone under 16,but yes you are in your legall rights to call the police if you were involved in having sex with an adult even if you did consent,as an adult you should know better,as a parent your child is in your care until at least 16 and they are yours to love protect and look after when things go wrong people look at you the parent and blame them,and not the praying adult as an adult and a parent i know better not to prey on a minor

Madhatter · 22-06-2006, 19:09

So a male say 16 having sex with a female at the age of 15 is abusing her because she doesn't want to. get real, it's what most youngsters do, girls are attracted to older guys, and if mummy has cried abuse and it's gone to court, as did happen down here, and the guy got put on the offenders register, what then?
Most rational people can see the difference between this and a 35 year old going with a 15yr old, but the register doesn't see a difference, even between consentual sex but where mummy has called the police. Both consenting but because ones a week before their 16th birthday it's gone to court.
Your opening a hornets nest, and I agree with the above other things should be done includig not letting the serious ones offenders and repeat offenders out.
Whats going to happen is people will take the law into their own hands, and innocent people will get hurt, not only that the people doing it, who wouldn't be doing it if this list wasn't released will get into trouble, possibly end up in prison.
Think who those people will be, who would go after these people?
It would be parents, who should be there to look after their kids not be in prison.
Hornets nest, totally wrong not needed and won't solve a thing, because they, once released have got to be somewhere.
And before you ask, no I wouldn't want real offenders by me, I don't agree with what they've done, I have no sympathy with them.