Information about Clayton

[Margaret Pilkington]

I know that, but he was also saying that way back (probably before it was George Hoyles) it was a tripe shop...or at least that is how I am reading it. He may have taken a brick from it because of what it had been to his family in the dim and distant past...before any of us were around, that's for sure.

[Margaret Pilkington]

I don't know when George Hoyle took the shop...do you? He definitely had it when I lived in Henry St.

[claytonx]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I don't know when George Hoyle took the shop...do you? He definitely had it when I lived in Henry St.

No I don't

[Mack]

[quote=katex;999495]This is a shot taken from Mario maps, which shows Henry Street around 1890 ... was certainly a long row, so could have been nicknamed that :

Thanks for the map. I'll pass it onto my sister. Very interesting.

In the 1970s, my mother made a trip to England, and while she was in the Accrington area, she found an artist who had drawn Long Row in Charcoal. She bought the drawing, and it's waiting for me in Pennsylvania when I can make the trip. I live in Baja, Mexico. Mother always told me that the shop was the building on the left as the drawing looked as if somebody stood in the middle of the road and drew the scene looking up. Maybe my sister can send me a photo of it.

But the map does show a half street or alley, so now I am perplexed! It really could be either - although I tend to think it was the back street - but the "Long Row" designation is confusing considering a previous poster mentionede that it was the name for Henry Street.

[claytonx]

As I said before it was the back street of Henry Street/Long row which went right up to High Street at the top of the hill. I think that would be where the tripe shop was on that corner with Whalley Rd. The menu looks good very healthy eating

[Mack]

Originally Posted by claytonx

As I said before it was the back street of Henry Street/Long row which went right up to High Street at the top of the hill. I think that would be where the tripe shop was on that corner with Whalley Rd. The menu looks good very healthy eating

My sister just sent me a photo of the charcoal drawing. My mother always said that it is "Long Row" and Grandma's shop is on the left. It looks more like the back street of Henry Street. What do you think?

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[cashman]

As n aside, i have n owd mate,thats a "Knight" from Clayton Le Moors, Lives oer accy now, wouldn't be any relation?

[claytonx]

Originally Posted by Mack

My sister just sent me a photo of the charcoal drawing. My mother always said that it is "Long Row" and Grandma's shop is on the left. It looks more like the back street of Henry Street. What do you think?

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One glance and you can tell its the back street and you can see it going right up,good picture. The main street would be twice as wide.

[claytonx]

Originally Posted by claytonx

One glance and you can tell its the back street and you can see it going right up,good picture. The main street would be twice as wide.

Does it seem as you remembered it.

[Mack]

Originally Posted by cashman

As n aside, i have n owd mate,thats a "Knight" from Clayton Le Moors, Lives oer accy now, wouldn't be any relation?

Gosh, I wish I could say, "Yes", but I honestly don't have a clue. It's a fairly common name, I think. You should ask you friend about William and Adelaide Knight who owned and operated a tripe shop at 158 Whalley Road in Clayton. I don't think William was too involved with the business, though.

[Mack]

Originally Posted by claytonx

Does it seem as you remembered it?

Yes, this is how I picture the area when I visited in 1978. I went into the door on the side, and that's where I got the brick from. My sister and I do think now that the shop was on the corner of Whalley Road and the back street to Henry. My mother may have gotten confused about "Long Row", but it remains somewhat puzzling.

[susie123]

Originally Posted by Mack

POLONY (know it was a stuffed casing, but that's all.

I like tripe and trotters and black pudding but could never stand polony. Always remember it as having a red casing.

Gourmet Britain - Encyclopedia - Polony

[Mack]

Originally Posted by susie123

I like tripe and trotters and black pudding but could never stand polony. Always remember it as having a red casing.

Originally Posted by susie123

Gourmet Britain - Encyclopedia - Polony

Thanks for the link. I like wurst and have no idea what polony tasted like. The secret must be in the spices because many types of sausage are made from a combination of beef and pork. The Pennsylvania Dutch have their own wurst including bood sausage and souse which is also called "head cheese" There's also the dark, very spicy "Lebanon Bologna".

[Bob Dobson]

My 1951 Barrett's Directory shows Mrs E Howard, a tripe dealer at 158 Whalley Rd, next door at 158 is a chip shop.Between Henry St & Well St are 7 dwellings/shops. G Hoyle is at 150. The name Long Row probably came about when it was being built - this was common. There's one in Sabden. Seven doesn't seem all that long but it would cost more t build than the usual four. At 144, next door to Thornber's chemists was J Bleasdale, a labourer.

[katex]

Would make more sense if the number was 156 to be on the corner. Compare up-to-date map with old.

Back Alley.jpg

Henry Street.jpg This on a join unfortunately.