Information about Clayton - Page 7

claytonx · 26-06-2012, 15:25

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Originally Posted by katex

Think you're looking at the wrong block, Sue, the Albion wasn't there then, and the P.H. is The Volunteers.

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Girls,girls,girls,you're getting confused the Vol,house two shops back on to the Enfield Mill.The Albion pub two shops are the last before you go over the bridge and back on to the canal.

susie123 · 26-06-2012, 15:45

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Originally Posted by katex

Think you're looking at the wrong block, Sue, the Albion wasn't there then, and the P.H. is The Volunteers.

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No sorry, the PH marked on the map is the Albion with a couple of buildings, no longer there, before the canal. Go back up towards Accy a bit, the next few buildings are what we are ralking about including the symmetrical pair of shops and the Volunteer on the RH corner of the block on the corner of what is now Corn Mill Yard. The buildings you mean Kate would have been opposite the Con Club.

Have a look on Streetview, it's easy to sort it out. And the Volunteeer is no 229 so the LH shop has to be 233 as in the directory.

Have just spent an hour or so on Mario, interesting to see on the 1890 map that Whalley Road Clayton from the Greyhound down to the canal is actually called Napoleon Street and after the canal it becomes Enfield Street. But the building next to the canal is actually marked as Whalley Road Wharf!

katex · 26-06-2012, 15:47

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Originally Posted by claytonx

Girls,girls,girls,you're getting confused the Vol,house two shops back on to the Enfield Mill.The Albion pub two shops are the last before you go over the bridge and back on to the canal.

I stand corrected ... have just overlapped with modern map.

Apologies.

susie123 · 26-06-2012, 15:47

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Originally Posted by claytonx

Girls,girls,girls,you're getting confused the Vol,house two shops back on to the Enfield Mill.The Albion pub two shops are the last before you go over the bridge and back on to the canal.

Yes Roy you and I are right. The two shops in the photo are between the Vol and the Albion.

Kate if the pub you marked is the Vol, there is no room for the Albion before the canal.

susie123 · 26-06-2012, 15:49

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Originally Posted by katex

I stand corrected ... have just overlapped with modern map.

Apologies.

No probs Kate, easy to do. As I said Streetview is easiest to sort it out.

claytonx · 26-06-2012, 15:51

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Originally Posted by susie123

No probs Kate, easy to do. As I said Streetview is easiest to sort it out.

Or my memory, still works when pushed.
Sue,
Look at street view go pass the two shops then spin the camara around and you can see the shape of the small building which was attached to the shops

susie123 · 26-06-2012, 15:57

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Originally Posted by claytonx

Or my memory, still works when pushed.

But we can't see your memory...

claytonx · 26-06-2012, 16:01

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Originally Posted by susie123

But we can't see your memory...

I like that made me laugh out loud was not expected.

susie123 · 26-06-2012, 16:02

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Originally Posted by claytonx

I like that made me laugh out loud was not expected.

Was going to add probably just as well we can't but thought I might be in for a virtual slap on the wrist.

claytonx · 26-06-2012, 16:22

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Originally Posted by susie123

Was going to add probably just as well we can't but thought I might be in for a virtual slap on the wrist.

Wrist's don't come into it across my knee.

susie123 · 26-06-2012, 16:24

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Originally Posted by claytonx

Wrist's don't come into it across my knee.

Ooh yes please.

(Think this thread wander had better stop NOW!!!)

claytonx · 26-06-2012, 16:31

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Originally Posted by susie123

Ooh yes please.

(Think this thread wander had better stop NOW!!!)

I agree or we will get talked about. Could say more but there goes that memory again.

susie123 · 26-06-2012, 16:36

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Originally Posted by claytonx

Look at street view go pass the two shops then spin the camara around and you can see the shape of the small building which was attached to the shops

Oh yes, looks like a low outbuilding with a chimney on top.

Mack · 26-06-2012, 17:13

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Originally Posted by susie123

I would say it's something to do with post number 5. Seems like the thread was moved and Mack did not like it so voiced his opinion and someone then gave him red k. Just my thoughts.

Yes, indeed. I have no problem with the way things have turned out, but my initial post to "Questions and Answers" was moved almost immediately to "Lost Friends and Family", and my question had nothing to do with the category. Anyway, it's isn't the first time I've gotten a red mark, and sticks and stones, etc.............

Mack · 26-06-2012, 17:37

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Originally Posted by susie123

Well I have cracked the location of the shops in your photo and it's nowhere near 158 or 144 Whalley Road.

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Originally Posted by susie123

A free search of directories on Ancestry turns up the entry Bleasdale and Co, 233 Whalley Road Clayton. Don't know the type of business or the year, think you have to pay for that sort of information. The entry in question is towards the bottom of the first page of search results.

Bleasdale - U.K., City and County Directories, 1600s-1900s - Ancestry.co.uk

Anyway Streetview of that area takes me to the Volunteer pub, further out towards Harwood than we were looking. The address of the Volunteer is 229 Whalley Road, next door is a house, then a pair of houses with exactly the same upstairs window arrangement as in Mack's photo, and the bottom facade has been rebuilt, indicating that there were once shop frontages. 233 would have been Bleasdale's, the shop on the left.

So the photo was of the opposite side of the road to the tripe shop we have been looking for, and much further out of Clayton.

I was wrong about one thing - the shop on the right is on a corner, of sorts - the next thing after it is the canal!

Thanks very much for all your help! This has been very informative. My Mum, who is 91 and has just recently been put into a nursing home is thrilled to bits at hearing about her family and seeing the census records. After her mother (Florence) died when my mother was five years old, her grandmother - Adelaide Knight - raised her at 158 Whalley Road.

Also, concerning other comments, if you look, my nick as "Mack" goes back to 2006. I can't recall what I posted though, and I lost the log in information and began a new account under the name, "Steerforth" in July, 2010. I found the log in information for "Mack", though. I posted some information about William C. Birtwell in "Hall of Fame". Also, my uncle, Lawrence Procter, who held the patent for getting dyestuff to adhere to Rayon. He worked at Steiners before emigrating to Brazil before the war - then to Canada - New York and finally Pennsylvania where our branch of the family caught up with him in the mid-1950s. My name is David Procter; my father was Richard - there were four brothers, Albert, John William (Jack), Lawrence and Richard - and one sister, Betty, and they lived on Dill Hall Lane near the cricket field.

("Mack" is short for "Mack A. Damia". Yes, I'm a nut)

Cheers!