Moped Wanted

[Doug]

Originally Posted by slinky

Lmao Doug!! I don't want a push bike because you have to peddle up hills on them and I work up a VERY big hill.

Yeah, but think of the fun you can have coming down, anyway it’s healthy and you’ll save on all the diet crappy stuff. And because you’re excising you could drink more. Lol and you will be helping the environment and be staying out of the way of us serious motorist….lol. Sorry couldn't resist, apart from that I need the money that Bitch is costing me a bl**dy fortune.

[vorlon24]

I used to cycle to work.

Now I work from home, so that's kinda difficult now!

[entwisi]

Originally Posted by slinky

[font=Comic Sans MS][color=blue]i looked at all the 125 s ended up getting the rs aprilia but the import version all the way from southampton as you cant buy the full powered one up here it was 34 bhp compared to the 12 bhp ones up here but id easily take most cars on it on a motorway if id have been willing to spend a cpl more thousand i could have had it up to full motogp rep and top speed of 152 mph or so ive been told

No way will a Prilly do 152. Even on the IOM TT the max they get out of the 125's is ~130. and thats down the mountain.

Originally Posted by slinky

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but still i wont touch a two stroke again they take forever to warm up . The new honda 125 is meant to be a 4 stroke but reckon it should do about 80 tops and its about the quickest as they ve pulled my old aprilia off the shelves due to it being to fast for new riders .

The New 125s are 4 stroke but only through emissions laws nothing to do with them being 'too quick' that was the whole reason 125s in this country are restricted to 12bhp( You used to be able to learn on unrestricted 250's). A CBR125 should hold a steady 80 without too many problems

Originally Posted by slinky

I m after buying an R6 or a gsxr 600 in the next few months in time for donnington

Whilst they are good bikes, don't get drawn into 'I have the latest and greatest 600' crap. If you are coming onto 600's for the first time I would recommend you getting a second hand Thundercat or CBR. With the money left get some proper track tuition. You will leave 99% of 600's on a TCat if you know how to ride.(Did you know that a TCat has more midrange torque than a ZX636, a bike that is the current benchmark for mid range grunt?) The Cat was first built in 1996. So much for 8 years progress. In real world riding peak power is very rarely used. On a Track yes, on the roads, No.


Due to a broken back I can't ride sports bikes any more so I have a Big Trailee, Massive torque, but relatively low top end power(100bhp). Soft comfy suspension and skinny semi knobbly tyres yet riding with a group of friends(ZX636, R6, T Cat, GSXR750) who are all good riders with lots of track experience I can happily keep up and lead 2up with full luggage. And we don't hang around either. On the roads its about how much speed you can carry through the corners not about what you can do in a straight line.

Whatever you do, Ride Safe.

[vorlon24]

Originally Posted by entwisi

On the roads its about how much speed you can carry through the corners not about what you can do in a straight line.

That's part of my problem - I don't have the bottle to lean the bike as I don't want to fall off.

Perhaps a few scrapes would do some good, but that could get expensive, and not just from repairing the bike.

[rockrabbit]

Originally Posted by entwisi

No way will a Prilly do 152. Even on the IOM TT the max they get out of the 125's is ~130. and thats down the mountain.
If you look at a few of the aprilia forums on here quite a few mention having them up to that speed but as i said in the first place only what ive read and heard . I only really watch the motogp 250 s and above . I had nothing but problems with mine anyway and i bought it brand new cost me just over 4000 forgetting the leathers and helmet etc

The New 125s are 4 stroke but only through emissions laws nothing to do with them being 'too quick' that was the whole reason 125s in this country are restricted to 12bhp( You used to be able to learn on unrestricted 250's). A CBR125 should hold a steady 80 without too many problems
personally im more a fan of being able to pull away quick than top end speed but i wouldnt travel on a motorway on something like that


Whilst they are good bikes, don't get drawn into 'I have the latest and greatest 600' crap. If you are coming onto 600's for the first time I would recommend you getting a second hand Thundercat or CBR. With the money left get some proper track tuition. You will leave 99% of 600's on a TCat if you know how to ride.(Did you know that a TCat has more midrange torque than a ZX636, a bike that is the current benchmark for mid range grunt?) The Cat was first built in 1996. So much for 8 years progress. In real world riding peak power is very rarely used. On a Track yes, on the roads, No.
I thoguth the R6 was meant to be one of the best on the market . A mate of mine has one and loves it and he hadnt ridden in quite a while before getting on that . I dont seem to hear many good words said about the zx s a friend has a zx10 but they arent meant to be as good as the gsxr s or the vtr s . Wouldnt mind track tuition and then going the manx tt for mad sunday . Didnt think the Tcat would have the same power as an r6

Due to a broken back I can't ride sports bikes any more so I have a Big Trailee, Massive torque, but relatively low top end power(100bhp). Soft comfy suspension and skinny semi knobbly tyres yet riding with a group of friends(ZX636, R6, T Cat, GSXR750) who are all good riders with lots of track experience I can happily keep up and lead 2up with full luggage. And we don't hang around either. On the roads its about how much speed you can carry through the corners not about what you can do in a straight line.
Whatever you do, Ride Safe.

A friend of mine is the same he had to sell his gsxr 750 as couldnt ride it due to back problems . He came off it riding back to the ferry at the tt a few years ago ,hes been after something different than a sports bike but dotn think his back is up to riding anything at the moment . As for riding safe i ve come off badly once in the rain and reckon it made me a safer rider after that plus i know others who have come off a lot worse if your into racing you lll have heard of tony shaw , his team mate is a frind of mine but can never ride again after coming off at a race at lincoln his shoulder is knackered and would struggle to hold the bike on any corner now

[entwisi]

Originally Posted by vorlon24

That's part of my problem - I don't have the bottle to lean the bike as I don't want to fall off.

Perhaps a few scrapes would do some good, but that could get expensive, and not just from repairing the bike.

What sort of bike do you have mate? Modern stuff(last 8 years or so) with decent tyres on will happily get the footrests down. You should also use your body more, moving the body off the seat allows the bike to stay more upright hence you can carry more corner speed for the same amount of lean.

One thing most people get wrong is the line through the corner. Find an experienced rider and follow them. You will soon start to learn braking/entry points as well as general lines.

Fear of falling off is normal, however it shouldn't get so great that you are more worried about it than a general self preservation thing. If you do then you are more likely to come off as you will freeze or target aquire(the bike goes where you look. In that split second before the accident if you look at what you are going to hit you will hit it. Looking at the possible escape route will normally be enough to get you through.) Learn to relax on the bike. The best and fastest riders often look like they are hardly trying. It should come naturally. Its the old 4 stage

Unconcious Incomptetance
Concious Incompetance
Concious Competance
Unconcious Comptetance

i.e. you start off crap but don't know it. Then you realise how crap you are , then you get better but you have to think hard about it. then you are good but don't think about it.

Don't forget that even if you reach stage 4 a bit of time off the bike will dro you back into stage 3. Even a couple of months over winter is enough to kill that rythmn.

[rockrabbit]

the main thing that worries me is braking and bad car drivers . How many times riding down a road has a car suddenly come out from a side street and nearly took you off

[vorlon24]

Originally Posted by entwisi

What sort of bike do you have mate? Modern stuff(last 8 years or so) with decent tyres on will happily get the footrests down. You should also use your body more, moving the body off the seat allows the bike to stay more upright hence you can carry more corner speed for the same amount of lean.

One thing most people get wrong is the line through the corner. Find an experienced rider and follow them. You will soon start to learn braking/entry points as well as general lines.

Fear of falling off is normal, however it shouldn't get so great that you are more worried about it than a general self preservation thing. If you do then you are more likely to come off as you will freeze or target aquire(the bike goes where you look. In that split second before the accident if you look at what you are going to hit you will hit it. Looking at the possible escape route will normally be enough to get you through.) Learn to relax on the bike. The best and fastest riders often look like they are hardly trying. It should come naturally. Its the old 4 stage

Unconcious Incomptetance
Concious Incompetance
Concious Competance
Unconcious Comptetance

i.e. you start off crap but don't know it. Then you realise how crap you are , then you get better but you have to think hard about it. then you are good but don't think about it.

Don't forget that even if you reach stage 4 a bit of time off the bike will dro you back into stage 3. Even a couple of months over winter is enough to kill that rythmn.

I have a W reg GPZ500, that has been off the road for a few months now (needs new tyres and there's a problem with the engine - it needs to be looked at by someone who knows what they're doing. I have a Haynes manual, but 'rattly squeak' or 'squeaky rattle' isn't covered!).

With regard to following people, when I was using the bike regularly, I was catching people up and passing them at the first given opportunity. Once you get to know the corners, you move into the unconscious competence phase, I guess, but you can have a blast at the same time!!!

I am aware of the four stage thing you mentioned - we went through it in our sales meeting last week.

It's generally a self-preservation thing about the leaning. I don't spend the ride worrying about falling off, but I have had a lucky escape on a couple of occasions, where the bend was sharper than I expected and I snatched the brake. I only got away with it because the road was dry.

For Christmas I got a track day from my sister and brother in law, which I want to use when it's dry. Although I won't be using my bike, I am hoping that I can pick up some useful tips when I do go, as long as I don't drop the thing!