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24-09-2007, 20:40
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10 weeks prison for driving at 172mph
how can a judge give the idiot driving at 172 mph a 10 week jail sentence
the guy should have got more like 10 years
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24-09-2007, 20:41
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Re: 10 weeks prison for driving at 172mph
You have to knock over 10 MPs at 200mph to get a decent sentence these days.
...might try it
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24-09-2007, 21:00
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Re: 10 weeks prison for driving at 172mph
Hmmmm.... 172mph? I'm not that impressed.
Now if he'd have been doing it in reverse, I may have raised an eyebrow.
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24-09-2007, 22:23
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Re: 10 weeks prison for driving at 172mph
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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey
Hmmmm.... 172mph? I'm not that impressed.
Now if he'd have been doing it in reverse, I may have raised an eyebrow.
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Although the fact that he was a fat man in such a small car doing that speed, impressed me.
Agree with others, the sentence is appalling, and the whole system needs overhauling.
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24-09-2007, 23:27
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Re: 10 weeks prison for driving at 172mph
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Originally Posted by shakermaker
You have to knock over 10 MPs at 200mph to get a decent sentence these days.
...might try it
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Depending on which ones then you might get a commendation from the govenment.
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24-09-2007, 23:39
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Re: 10 weeks prison for driving at 172mph
Just the sort of ****e you get these day's. He'd have done 180 if he had taken the Aston.
The intent should have brought him 12 months at least and a ban for life.
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25-09-2007, 00:16
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Re: 10 weeks prison for driving at 172mph
whilst hes got a bit of bird, there is no balance in sentencing these days as the link entwisi illustrates,think folk should be more irate at that. whilst i think the sentence aint enough for him, the sentence for a pervert seems non-existant.
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25-09-2007, 07:05
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Re: 10 weeks prison for driving at 172mph
<Devils advocate>
not condoning it wholly but one thing that isn't mentioned about the speeding is what time/conditions etc. Not knowing this road I can't comment fully and yes its illegal but there are roads I've ridden on my bike where I know there are no junctions, nothing to pull out, good visibility etc. put that road at 6am on a dead sunday morning and a properly focussed and concentrating driver can do that sort of speed in relative safety.
Likewise 30 mph past a school at 3-4pm on a wet windy, horrible winters night is plain stupid.
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25-09-2007, 07:18
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Re: 10 weeks prison for driving at 172mph
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Originally Posted by entwisi
<Devils advocate>
not condoning it wholly but one thing that isn't mentioned about the speeding is what time/conditions etc. Not knowing this road I can't comment fully and yes its illegal but there are roads I've ridden on my bike where I know there are no junctions, nothing to pull out, good visibility etc. put that road at 6am on a dead sunday morning and a properly focussed and concentrating driver can do that sort of speed in relative safety.
Likewise 30 mph past a school at 3-4pm on a wet windy, horrible winters night is plain stupid.
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Is that admitting that you need 10 weeks of jail time?
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25-09-2007, 08:58
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Re: 10 weeks prison for driving at 172mph
Got to agree with Entwi, Full Facts should be known, as high speed can be done with safty in mind for others at the right time and place.
As for giving him bird, just shows the pathetic system we have, when child abusers get away with nothing, but a speeder gets 6 months, MOST drink Drivers dont get that and IMO they are more a danager to the public.
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25-09-2007, 09:37
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Re: 10 weeks prison for driving at 172mph
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Is that admitting that you need 10 weeks of jail time?
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Goodness me, If you could be done on regression therapy evidence I reckon half the bikers in the UK would be in clink
Lets be honest, even 'family cars' like modeo st220's can do ~150 nowadays. My Dad always said a monkey with a brick on the accelerator can drive fast, its for how long before he crashes that changes with skill.
Speed doesn't kill, its a sudden change in speed that does!
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25-09-2007, 13:40
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Re: 10 weeks prison for driving at 172mph
I think the whole justice system is wrong, ban and a big fine is more appropriate, he hasn't caused any injury by his actions (this time). I also agree that the other factors should be taken into consideration too.
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25-09-2007, 13:57
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Re: 10 weeks prison for driving at 172mph
would have to agree there grego, its costings us now keeping in in there!!!
he should have a got a lifetime ban and a BIG fine
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25-09-2007, 22:20
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Re: 10 weeks prison for driving at 172mph
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Originally Posted by entwisi
<Devils advocate>
not condoning it wholly but one thing that isn't mentioned about the speeding is what time/conditions etc. Not knowing this road I can't comment fully and yes its illegal but there are roads I've ridden on my bike where I know there are no junctions, nothing to pull out, good visibility etc. put that road at 6am on a dead sunday morning and a properly focussed and concentrating driver can do that sort of speed in relative safety.
Likewise 30 mph past a school at 3-4pm on a wet windy, horrible winters night is plain stupid.
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In the UK it is a maximum of 70 mph on specified roads and that means precisely what it states. It does not mean you can go twice as fast if the roads are dry and clear of other traffic. The time and road conditions only come into the equation if they are less than favourable and drivers are expected to reduce their speed to take them into account if they are, not increase their speed just because it happens to be dry and clear.
Whether you think that the road conditions would allow you to travel at excessive speeds in safety is irrelevant. Go above 70 mph and you break the Road Traffic Laws. It is as simple as that.
All speed limits are qualified with - if road conditions allow. There are thousands of miles of country roads where the speed limit is 30 mph yet to travel along them at that speed would be foolish. What sort of a response do you think that your defence of “your honour I was only doing 29 mph but I had to go wide at the bend otherwise I couldn’t have negotiated the corner” would bring?
On the face of it 10 weeks clink does seem lenient but he was also banned for three years and order to re-take the test.
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