£100 fines - rubbish.

garinda · 14-08-2010, 17:16

'HYNDBURN residents face £100 fines for what a council is labelling 'bin sins'.
But the borough's MP has described the penalties as a 'bullying tactic', while council bosses said they had to take the 'last resort' to improve recycling rates.'

'Anyone who puts bin bags outside their black wheelie bin on collection day faces a £100 fine.'
Hyndburn residents threatened with £100 fines over bins (From Blackburn Citizen)

Collecting my wheelie bin this week, I noticed all the bins had stickers on them, with a note inside about fines if people do not obey das rules.

(I do hope all the thousands of notes were on recycled paper.)

I'm good.

I've always recycled, even before it became mandatory. I hate wasting anything, even rubbish.

My wheelie bin is always put out on time, and is very rarely a quarter full. However by lunchtime someone, presumably a neighbour, has always filled my bin with their spare rubbish bags.

So when it comes to fines, until we have lockable wheelie bins, I'm afraid when it comes to issuing £100 fines for overflowing bins etc., I'm afraid you, H.B.C., haven't got a legal leg to stand on.

If you'd like to take a test case to court, I'd willingly be the resident you lose to.

heth · 14-08-2010, 17:22

I recieved exactly the same notice on my bin when it was only half full!

Then last Tuesday we recieved a letter saying that our area is being monitored due to "fly tippers" on our back alley, maybe they need to look at my next door neighbour..................

over-flowing bin
5 bin bags beside their bin
no recycling done what so-ever

and i know all this as when I am out the back yard getting some fresh air

before bin day they cart it all out!!
same as you, dont even think about trying to fine me!!

garinda · 14-08-2010, 17:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by heth

I recieved exactly the same notice on my bin when it was only half full!

Then last Tuesday we recieved a letter saying that our area is being monitored due to "fly tippers" on our back alley, maybe they need to look at my next door neighbour..................

over-flowing bin
5 bin bags beside their bin
no recycling done what so-ever

and i know all this as when I am out the back yard getting some fresh air

before bin day they cart it all out!!
same as you, dont even think about trying to fine me!!

Unless they give us lockable bins, which there was a rumour we were to have, or unless they expect us to sit on the bin lid until it's collected, they haven't a hope in hell of being able to successfully issue fines.

Neil · 14-08-2010, 21:43

They use bully tactics the same as with dog fouling fines. They ask your name so they can give you a fine but you dont have to tell them anything.

Guinness · 14-08-2010, 21:44

Two questions for the councillors who post on this forum...

a) How does the council distinguish that "some areas of the borough had very low recycling rates" as opposed to areas that have high recycling rates?

b) At which council meeting was this motion passed?

anzac · 14-08-2010, 22:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda

'HYNDBURN residents face £100 fines for what a council is labelling 'bin sins'.
But the borough's MP has described the penalties as a 'bullying tactic', while council bosses said they had to take the 'last resort' to improve recycling rates.'

'Anyone who puts bin bags outside their black wheelie bin on collection day faces a £100 fine.'
Hyndburn residents threatened with £100 fines over bins (From Blackburn Citizen)

Collecting my wheelie bin this week, I noticed all the bins had stickers on them, with a note inside about fines if people do not obey das rules.

(I do hope all the thousands of notes were on recycled paper.)

I'm good.

I've always recycled, even before it became mandatory. I hate wasting anything, even rubbish.

My wheelie bin is always put out on time, and is very rarely a quarter full. However by lunchtime someone, presumably a neighbour, has always filled my bin with their spare rubbish bags.

So when it comes to fines, until we have lockable wheelie bins, I'm afraid when it comes to issuing £100 fines for overflowing bins etc., I'm afraid you, H.B.C., haven't got a legal leg to stand on.

If you'd like to take a test case to court, I'd willingly be the resident you lose to.

Every week I put out my mum and dad's bin which is very low on rubbish but by the time the bin men come along it's full

Please don't tell me to have a word with the people who are responsible as I don't live with my parents 24/7 and they are 80 and 77 years old and want a quiet life. I know who is doing it - I have photo's of who is doing it and if they ever tried to take my parents to court I could prove what is going on but yet again the cloud cuckoo council will try and think that it is all black and white as usual

katex · 14-08-2010, 22:13

My bin is only ever 1/3rd full (approx) ... I invite my neighbours either side to put any extra bin bags in mine as they have larger families, as long as the bin lid will go down and all food stuffs are wrapped (don't want maggots).

BERNADETTE · 14-08-2010, 22:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guinness

Two questions for the councillors who post on this forum...

a) How does the council distinguish that "some areas of the borough had very low recycling rates" as opposed to areas that have high recycling rates?

b) At which council meeting was this motion passed?

Don't hold your breath waiting for an answer from councillors from either side

It seems to me that none of them will give you a straight answer (prove me wrong please and you may get my vote next time)

Restless · 15-08-2010, 02:20

Man this is such bollocks.... Every 2 weeks somebody puts bags outside my back gate... Am i going to pay £100 fine NO i am not

Mick · 15-08-2010, 05:21

It seams one of our neighbours has already found a way round this

they are a small young family mother father and 1 child yet the other week i watched as he put 4 wheelie bins out to be emptied

so the simple answer is go round nicking other peoples wheelie bins put your door number on the bin and there you go problem solved.

heth · 15-08-2010, 06:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick

It seams one of our neighbours has already found a way round this

they are a small young family mother father and 1 child yet the other week i watched as he put 4 wheelie bins out to be emptied

so the simple answer is go round nicking other peoples wheelie bins put your door number on the bin and there you go problem solved.

4 WHEELIE BINS?

how on earth do they manage to fill 4?

Less · 15-08-2010, 07:25

Whenever I put my wheelie bin out which because I live alone never has much in I find about ten bin bags have been dumped against my wall and another 10 to 15 dumped against the neighbours wall opposite, I'm not doing it, they are not doing it, if we were we would follow the adage 'never **** on your own doorstep', so please HBC get some sense, and don't you dare ever try to send me a summons!

By the way how can they tell if someone is or isn't recycling, so far as this particular duty is concerned although I do fill my various sacks and bins with these items of the Earth's resources, (how many asda bags do I need to collect to get a gold star from the Council?), I hardly ever remember to put them out, (indeed most times they do go out are on days Mick catches me on MSN and TELLS me it's recycling day), so when I have a full kitchens worth I take this stuff to the tip where I sort it into it's appropriate skips, so, how is the council going to keep a record of how much and how often I do my recycling?
Unless of course we introduce another layer of bureaucracy and I get a receipt, (hopefully on re-cycleable paper), from the guys at the tip?

Something we'll never see on the side of a HBC Bin Wagon

lancsdave · 15-08-2010, 07:28

Is this the same council who provide 2 skips for the market traders. One for cardboard and one for everything else, including bottle, cans, and paper mixed in with everything else ?

Neil · 15-08-2010, 07:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by heth

4 WHEELIE BINS?

how on earth do they manage to fill 4?

With all the failed chicken nuggets and burnt cakes Mick throws over his back yard wall

garinda · 15-08-2010, 07:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by lancsdave

Is this the same council who provide 2 skips for the market traders. One for cardboard and one for everything else, including bottle, cans, and paper mixed in with everything else ?

Yes, and they're the lucky ones, who can at least attempt to recycle some commercial trade waste in the borough.

Others get threatened with fines, if there is suspicion that trade waste is recycled with their domestic collection.

Council admits trade waste is not recycled - Accrington Observer