1300 Bombardier (UKs last Railway stock producer) jobs being lost

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Yet despite all of the above, we are still the SIXTH LARGEST MANUFACTURER in the world. And are world class in what we do.
Just incase you all missed it

I am sure that you have evidence to support your claims BG...but if that is the case, why don't we see more goods with a union flag and a MADE IN ENGLAND logo proudly displayed?

A few years ago, when we were in Australia, we saw signs over factories which said 'Proud to be Australian' 'Proud Australians buy Australia Made goods' 'Don't export Australian jobs by buying foreign goods'........and you could find Australian made goods in the shops because they displayed the national flag prominently.

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

this tells a little story Siemens, which beat Bombardier to the Thameslink rolling stock contract, is now trying to hire its staff, according to the Unite union.

The union said Siemens wants the UK train maker’s procurement and sales staff, as well as Bombardier’s bogies.

Siemens said it was not aware of any approach being made, but insiders at Bombardier told The Sun newspaper that recruitment agencies had been in touch on Siemens' behalf.

Mark Young, regional co-ordinating officer at the Unite union, said the move “beggared belief” and told the newspaper: “One of the senior HR guys told us the company had contacted them and asked if they had any bilingual procurement staff as they had a problem with English speakers.

“It's unbelievable. The question has to be asked, if they haven't got the skills and abilities in the first place how did they win the contract?”

Earlier this week bosses at Bombardier, based in Canada but with substantial facilities at Derby, announced plans to axe 1,429 jobs at the factory after losing out on the valuable contract – which could have a knock-on effect on its future ability to win major contracts.

Transport Secretary Philip Hammond has agreed to meet unions to discuss the situation next week.

C'mon, can you do us a favour? if you have to cut and paste can you please not do it from a discredited rag like the Sun?

It's offensive to quite a lot of Accywebbers who regard Murdoch and News International as the lowest of the low. I thought you did, too, but obviously only when it suits you.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by steeljack

at least have the decency to post the link where you lifted the above from
Vorsprung durch manufacturing - what can the UK learn from Germany? - Tom Lawton - BDO

Give him a break.

It must have took a lot of effort to remove all the punctuation, and capital letters, and space it so it appeared as a beautiful dense pattern.

[Boeing Guy]

I her you Margaret, but there are lots of British manufactured goods around.
Have you been in a car recently, the chances are the drive shafts were made in the midlands by GKN, Been on a plane on holiday, if its a Airbus, we made the wings, if Boeing it's a good chance the engine was made by Roll Royce in Derby or Barnoldswick. Had a soft drink recently, good chance it's British. Even The Japanese build here, Nissan, toyota and Honda all have big factories.
Maybe we don't like shouting it out anymore.
The UK Motor industry, far from being dead is thriving, albeit some under foreign control, but there are lots of small manufactures of specialist vehicles. We also manufacture world class Military vehicles and aircraft that are world beating. I could go on, but they are out there. I just found this site.
http://www.buybritish.co.uk/#

[Margaret Pilkington]

Thanks BG......Yes, you are right about the components........I wasn't thinking of components and perhaps I should have been.
I was thinking more of the kind of stuff that we need to furnish and equip our homes.
I think you are right about us not promoting the goods we manufacture a bit more loud and proud.

I would like to see everything that has some British input, whether that be the research and development, or the manufacture of the goods, bearing a union flag.

[steeljack]

Maybe the UK should be a little bit more like France and be a bit more protective about domestic industries ,one example , seem to remember that France has a law that says a minimum of 60% of all tv programs aired have to be produced in France as a way of protecting French jobs.
Also a fact , when Rupert Murdoch moved into the US media market he was required to have US citizenship before he was allowed ownership of any media (newspapers and TV stations) .
The idea that any 'key' industry can be foreign controlled is totally wrong, examples are power, water, steel, telecoms,transport , leads to a loss of national sovereignty

[Boeing Guy]

Maybe, but we still manufacture more than France

[cmonstanley]

if told i you i pasted some of it you would have complained but i did add some of it but it just proves a point as i was stating in this thread http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...p-57436-2.html this just proves the point i was getting to

[cmonstanley]

i never moved any punctation and it was from the daily telegraph a proven to tory newspaper whose editor doesnt like cameron

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

if told i you i pasted some of it you would have complained but i did add some of it but it just proves a point as i was stating in this thread http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...p-57436-2.html this just proves the point i was getting to

How does it prove that point?

Don't you find it easier to read and digest posts that are put into paragraphs...?

[garinda]

Originally Posted by steeljack

Maybe the UK should be a little bit more like France and be a bit more protective about domestic industries ,one example , seem to remember that France has a law that says a minimum of 60% of all tv programs aired have to be produced in France as a way of protecting French jobs.
Also a fact , when Rupert Murdoch moved into the US media market he was required to have US citizenship before he was allowed ownership of any media (newspapers and TV stations) .
The idea that any 'key' industry can be foreign controlled is totally wrong, examples are power, water, steel, telecoms,transport , leads to a loss of national sovereignty

I hate the Americanisation of Britain.

I'd happily support a cultural boycott.

Bye.

You're going on ignore.

[Eric]

And I always thought Bombardier was a Canadian Company

[Boeing Guy]

Cmon, you might try to ignore my post's, but I fail to see any point you have.
Let me repeat for you, BRITIAN, IS THE 6TH LARGEST MANUFACTURING COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. Now could you please explain what your problem is?

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by steeljack

at least have the decency to post the link where you lifted the above from
Vorsprung durch manufacturing - what can the UK learn from Germany? - Tom Lawton - BDO

Thought as much

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

I hate the Americanisation of Britain.

I'd happily support a cultural boycott.

Bye.

You're going on ignore.

No point G he never says anything himself, if theres more than half a dozen words its been cut and pasted