1300 Bombardier (UKs last Railway stock producer) jobs being lost - Page 5

jaysay · 11-07-2011, 08:26

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Cmon, you might try to ignore my post's, but I fail to see any point you have.
Let me repeat for you, BRITIAN, IS THE 6TH LARGEST MANUFACTURING COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. Now could you please explain what your problem is?

Give him time BG his search engine is working overtime up yon over the boarder

cmonstanley · 11-07-2011, 20:47

yes we are but what is the biggest export yes youve got it the arms industry add oil ,whiskey and pharmaceuticals but we still need to strive for more to get people off the dole unless you think it is acceptable to have 3 million plus out of work.my point is you cant run an economy with no money and cutting jobs which is the tories answer with no plan b look at the german companies they were still employing people in their recession and they were the first ones out in the western world.

Margaret Pilkington · 11-07-2011, 21:26

There are people on the dole because they don't want to work(I am not saying all of those on the dole are like this...but some are)....and of course it doesn't make sense to have 3 million people on the dole........they should be working,paying taxes...contributing to the wealth of the country, helping to pay the debts incurred by the last government.
Where are these jobs in manufacturing? Have the unemployed got the appropriate skills to do the jobs that are out there?

Maybe the German manufacturing base is different. While you might like to comapare Germany and its economy the the British one, what evidence have you to suggest the economies are comaparable?

Mancie · 11-07-2011, 22:07

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

There are people on the dole because they don't want to work(I am not saying all of those on the dole are like this...but some are)....and of course it doesn't make sense to have 3 million people on the dole........they should be working,paying taxes...contributing to the wealth of the country, helping to pay the debts incurred by the last government.
Where are these jobs in manufacturing? Have the unemployed got the appropriate skills to do the jobs that are out there?

Maybe the German manufacturing base is different. While you might like to comapare Germany and its economy the the British one, what evidence have you to suggest the economies are comaparable?

And in your wisdom Margaret what sort of percentage of those 3 million do you think chose to live on £65 per week rather than work?...I don't think the Tory government of the 80's lost to much sleep over the then 3.5 million..a figure that almost seems a target for this government in thier current de-employment scheme.

Margaret Pilkington · 12-07-2011, 06:03

They don't live on the quoted £65 a week, they claim other benefits......Housing benefit, child tax credits......there are a whole raft of them which encourage the idle to sit at home and watch daytime TV........they will tell you it isn't worth their while to go out to work because they will lose these benefits.

I don't know whether the Tory government of the 80's lost any sleep over the unemployment figures...and really it is irrelevant. It doesn't alter what is happening in the here and now.

Boeing Guy · 12-07-2011, 07:08

Well let's see, in order to create jobs, as there is no point lamenting the past, we need to encourage enterprise. This means lower taxes, cut red tape, maybe even lower the minimum wage. In Germany, it has be quoted on here that the workers are prepared to take a pay cut so more people can keep there jobs.
But what do I know, I used to run a business years ago, my partner used to have a business and both my sister in law and her partner have small businesses and employ people.
The problem with a lot of socialists is that if you work hard, employ people, make money and spend it on some luxuries, as is your right, then you are a capitalist scum.
I see both yourself and Mancie are our resident socialists.

If you are so clever, instead of copying and pasting what you read in socialist worker, Scottish edition, why don't YOU explain to us what YOU think we should all do to get rid of unemployment in the UK.

Boeing Guy · 12-07-2011, 07:46

I forgot to add, less unionised labour also helps

jaysay · 12-07-2011, 09:57

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

I forgot to add, less unionised labour also helps

Ya if that had applied in the 60s and 70s BG, we might just have had a thriving car and ship building industry

Boeing Guy · 12-07-2011, 18:19

Still waiting for greatness to appear here

cmonstanley · 12-07-2011, 18:22

behold behold greatness has just past you

Margaret Pilkington · 12-07-2011, 18:23

even smart arses have great cracks in 'em.

Boeing Guy · 12-07-2011, 18:28

Butlordandmasteryouhavenotgivenusaanswertoourprobl ems?????

Written in the style of pure genius........well it's pure something anyway

jaysay · 12-07-2011, 18:33

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Butlordandmasteryouhavenotgivenusaanswertoourprobl ems?????

Written in the style of pure genius........well it's pure something anyway

Not to worry BG he's probably run out of links from the Guardian

cmonstanley · 12-07-2011, 18:38

its too late for an answer to our problems ,we should have kept british gas nationalised so we could have controlled our destiny instead of the shareholder controlling our destiny and all our profits

look at norway they kept their nationalised and they have the highest standard of living in europe.

Boeing Guy · 12-07-2011, 18:42

OMG so the only thing we could do, is to have kept British Gas, shortened to BG, in the governments hands.
My site name is Boeing Guy, shortened to BG, this is because I get to fly a Boeing 737, that's a flying machine, I know it's sounds crazy that man can fly, but he can.
I think you need to go back to the crayons...... I rest my case