2011 Census

***Mr D*** · 11-05-2009, 15:41

This will be popping along in a few years time, I can see its compulsory to be completed, can anyone explain to me as to why this would be compulsory.

jaysay · 11-05-2009, 16:04

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D***

This will be popping along in a few years time, I can see its compulsory to be completed, can anyone explain to me as to why this would be compulsory.

Its the law of the land

MargaretR · 11-05-2009, 16:13

http://www.nisranew.nisra.gov.uk/census/pdf/FACT7.PDF
The Census is compulsory
Every household must return a form by law. This is because it is
important for people not to be missed out – the Census is designed to be
a complete count of the population. Failure to make a completed return,
or giving false information, is an offence which may attract a fine of up
to £1,000

I have never objected to supplying info in the past - now I have serious doubts about how it will be used.

shillelagh · 11-05-2009, 16:20

Census in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

the table at the bottom says what was included for the first time ... and in 1871 it was

1871 2 April Whether an imbecile, idiot or lunatic.[2]

so how many accywebbers would that include ...

jaysay · 11-05-2009, 16:34

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Originally Posted by shillelagh

Census in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

the table at the bottom says what was included for the first time ... and in 1871 it was

1871 2 April Whether an imbecile, idiot or lunatic.[2]

so how many accywebbers would that include ...

Well there are over 15,000 Members Jen

Less · 11-05-2009, 17:04

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D***

This will be popping along in a few years time, I can see its compulsory to be completed, can anyone explain to me as to why this would be compulsory.

At a rough estimate I would say the 2011 Census will be 'popping' along in about 2 years, costs nowt but a bit of biro ink, OR HAVE YOU SOMETHING TO HIDE?

***Mr D*** · 11-05-2009, 17:08

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

http://www.nisranew.nisra.gov.uk/census/pdf/FACT7.PDF
The Census is compulsory
Every household must return a form by law. This is because it is
important for people not to be missed out – the Census is designed to be
a complete count of the population. Failure to make a completed return,
or giving false information, is an offence which may attract a fine of up
to £1,000

I have never objected to supplying info in the past - now I have serious doubts about how it will be used.

Thats what Im thinking, I would like to see a sample of the form.

So how will they know who is where? I mean I know a few people who are No Fixed Abode, do not vote Ect. How will they fit into the equasion.

IIRC they are not still sure who will be incharge of keeping all this data secure, from what I have looked at one inpreticulare are in the running who look a bit dodgy.

Lockheed Martin (who just so happen to be - The largest provider of IT services, systems integration, and training to the US Government).

So Our info could be stored by them, would that mean it would then come under the patriot act?

***Mr D*** · 11-05-2009, 17:09

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Originally Posted by Less

At a rough estimate I would say the 2011 Census will be 'popping' along in about 2 years, costs nowt but a bit of biro ink, OR HAVE YOU SOMETHING TO HIDE?

A few in my book meaning two (I think 2011 give that away a bit).

and YES I do have something to hide.

Less · 11-05-2009, 17:16

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A few in my book meaning two (I think 2011 give that away a bit).

and YES I do have something to hide.

A Couple = 2

A few = 3 or more.

Perhaps if you have something to hide, = EMIGRATE lose yourself in a land that doesn't give a damn.

***Mr D*** · 11-05-2009, 17:38

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A Couple = 2

A few = 3 or more.

Perhaps if you have something to hide, = EMIGRATE lose yourself in a land that doesn't give a damn.

Fair play, but a few rimes with two.

Why EMIGRATE? Im already in a land that doesn't give a damn.

Only thing Im hiding is my Privacy. Do/should I not have a right to that.

Hence why I ask the questions.

I have not seen a Census form to see what questions are being asked, can you/anyone give me a example of some questions? afer all its every ten years, and I cant remember filling one in in 2001.

shillelagh · 11-05-2009, 18:24

all it took was a quick google .. and you will find the questionnaire....

2011 Census questionnaire content: Office for National Statistics

West Ender · 11-05-2009, 21:18

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Only thing Im hiding is my Privacy. Do/should I not have a right to that.

Do you pay tax and NIC? Do you hold a driving licence? Do you have, or had, a mortgage, bank loan, item of furniture etc. on credit? Do you own or rent a house? Do you have children? If so, your details are already held on file by one department or another.

jaysay · 12-05-2009, 04:22

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Do you pay tax and NIC? Do you hold a driving licence? Do you have, or had, a mortgage, bank loan, item of furniture etc. on credit? Do you own or rent a house? Do you have children? If so, your details are already held on file by one department or another.

Not to forget have you been detained at Her Majesty's pleasure

***Mr D*** · 12-05-2009, 11:13

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Originally Posted by shillelagh

all it took was a quick google .. and you will find the questionnaire....

2011 Census questionnaire content: Office for National Statistics

Thanks for the link, However I dont think anywhere on there is shows the actual questions, just what may be in it.

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Originally Posted by West Ender

Do you pay tax and NIC? Do you hold a driving licence? Do you have, or had, a mortgage, bank loan, item of furniture etc. on credit? Do you own or rent a house? Do you have children? If so, your details are already held on file by one department or another.

Yes, Yes, No, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes. Exactly, So why should I HAVE TO fill a form in should I not have a option?

jaysay · 12-05-2009, 11:31

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D***

Thanks for the link, However I don't think anywhere on there is shows the actual questions, just what may be in it.

Yes, Yes, No, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes. Exactly, So why should I HAVE TO fill a form in should I not have a option?

The idea is Mr D. they want to know just how many people are living in this country, but even so they may just have a slight problem with that because there are quite a few people here who no one actually knows who or where they are