40 years. - Page 3

mrjdallen · 12-07-2007, 11:39

how many years will be til they are let out - for good behaviour

SPUGGIE J · 12-07-2007, 11:53

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Originally Posted by mrjdallen

how many years will be til they are let out - for good behaviour

With a lily livered PC mad do gooder who has been brainwashed into believing they are reabilitated and have learned their lesson I would say ten years.

Margaret Pilkington · 12-07-2007, 12:44

No, a report in my paper today says that the minimum sentence is 40 years.....so we will all be paying for these would be murderers to live at our expense for that length of time.

jambutty · 12-07-2007, 14:17

Unfortunately all those people who supported the “Human Rights For All” brigade are now reaping what they have sown, which is why we have prisoners living better than the majority of pensioners and people on low incomes.

It is high time that the UK government decreed that anyone who is meted out a prison sentence loses all human rights except those relating to humane treatment.

The prisoner should serve the full term that is dished out and not be let out early because of prison overcrowding.

Stop getting involved in hair brained schemes (ID cards, IT systems that don’t work etc.) and funding illegal wars and use the money to build more prisons and train staff to man them.

As someone has already mentioned, make the prisoners work and pay them so that the money can be used to keep their families and thus reduce the burden on the state.

I read somewhere (on this forum I think) that someone mentioned (probably tongue in cheek) the best work would be to make prisoners operate a treadmill to generate electricity. One hour on, one hour off for 16 hours a day. Make them work so hard that they will be too tired to even think about doing anything nasty, let alone make plans.

What about operating a laundry for hospital and care homes linen? There is nothing like a hot steamy atmosphere for sapping the strength. What about separating re-cyclable waste from all the trash that we get rid of? Saving the local authorities and us from having to do so.

The moral high ground Eric is a fat load of use as your wife and kids lie at your feet in pieces.

LancYorkYankee · 12-07-2007, 14:55

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Originally Posted by LancYorkYankee

I may be the lone voice here but I believe anyone found guilty of treason or terrorist acts should face the death sentence!

A question though: Are these guys put in with the general prison population? Wouldn't they "take care of them" as they would child molestors and such?

THIS IS MEANT AS A JOKE: Maybe our American Criminals are more morally righteous. They would assuredly put these scumbags out of our misery and make the prison yard a happier place!

Brian

Sorry to quote myself but I haven't seen an answer to my question. Wouldn't the other prisoners seek their own kind of justice on these guys or will they be away from the general population?

Thanks for any guidance here!

Brian

Royboy39 · 12-07-2007, 15:08

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Originally Posted by LancYorkYankee

Sorry to quote myself but I haven't seen an answer to my question. Wouldn't the other prisoners seek their own kind of justice on these guys or will they be away from the general population?

Thanks for any guidance here!

Brian

Segregation is a must for these guys I would say.

Eric · 12-07-2007, 15:27

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Originally Posted by LancYorkYankee

Sorry to quote myself but I haven't seen an answer to my question. Wouldn't the other prisoners seek their own kind of justice on these guys or will they be away from the general population?

Thanks for any guidance here!

Brian

I think that all prison communities have their own "moral" structures ... certain crimes are OK and others, rape, child molesting, etc., are not. These guys would not last in general population.

cashman · 12-07-2007, 15:32

as ive said before,was under the impression robin reid (shoe bomber) was converted in prison? if thats the case segregation is not sucessful.

Tealeaf · 12-07-2007, 16:19

Two things are likely to happen:-

Firstly, at some point in the future, somewhere in the world a group of terrorists will sieze hostages and will then demand that the 21/7 four be released and flown to a safe haven. I don't know what the outcome of that will be.

However, I am certain of a second event. About two years from now, lawyers acting for these four (and financed by the taxpayers) will put an appeal in the courts that the basis of their conviction was unsound. It will probably be thrown out, but within another year or so a second appeal will be made. New evidence will no doubt come to light and there will probably be questions raised over police procedures. Their conviction will be found to be a gross miscarriage of justice and they will be immeadiatly released. They will each then receive compensation of several million pounds for the trauma they have undergone.

Will anyone bet on me being wrong?

jambutty · 12-07-2007, 16:44

Sounds about right to me but then we have only ourselves to blame for allowing our Parliamentary representatives to sign up to the Human Rights thing and not exclude lawfully imprisoned prisoners.