5p for a carrier bag - Page 4

Morecambe Ex Pat · 06-10-2015, 06:40

Climate change has been going on for millions of years, how else did we get from an Ice Age to a temperate climate?

Mog · 06-10-2015, 07:41

Well would you believe it. Just coming home from town and I found an England Rugby shirt in a Tesco,s plastic bag. Didn't know what to do with it so I threw it in the dust bin. Thinking about it. What a waste of a 5 pence plastic bag.

RainbowSix · 06-10-2015, 09:02

Yeah, you should have kept the bag

Gordon Booth · 06-10-2015, 13:57

Popped into Asda this afternoon for a few things.
Asked the girl 'How's charging for the bags going'?
OK she said, usage well down.
BUT- she had one guy this morning started screaming and shouting at her wanting to charge him 5d a bag. Manager came, couldn't calm him, security had to eject him. He's banned now. I can't believe he didn't know about the charge and what a fool to get so worked up!

Margaret Pilkington · 06-10-2015, 14:01

I heard a similar story in town today.
Where have these people been? How can you avoid seeing all the notices in the shops....on the TV too.
I just think some people believe if they make a big enough fuss then they will get a bag free.

accyman · 06-10-2015, 14:01

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Originally Posted by Morecambe Ex Pat

Climate change has been going on for millions of years, how else did we get from an Ice Age to a temperate climate?

mammoths left the fridge door open a night and sabertooth tigers refused to recycle ?

accyman · 06-10-2015, 14:03

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Popped into Asda this afternoon for a few things.
Asked the girl 'How's charging for the bags going'?
OK she said, usage well down.
BUT- she had one guy this morning started screaming and shouting at her wanting to charge him 5d a bag. Manager came, couldn't calm him, security had to eject him. He's banned now. I can't believe he didn't know about the charge and what a fool to get so worked up!

so now he will have to shop at aldi or lidel where they have been charging for bags since they opened many years ago lol

ps:

no idea where the pic was taken i think its a joke picture

Eric · 06-10-2015, 14:18

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Originally Posted by Morecambe Ex Pat

how else did we get from an Ice Age to a temperate climate?

Well, maybe it's time to do a little reading if you are remotely interested. There's a "Global Warming for Idiots" that is fun and informative. (In fact, all the "Idiots' Guides" and "Dummies" books are worthwhile reads ... I read "Algebra for Dummies" and got more out of it in five minutes than I did from a whole year of E. J. Owen.

) But what climate change deniers are denying is that human activity is affecting the climate ... that increasing amounts of carbon dioxide are entering the atmosphere from industrial activity, (particularly in the emerging economies of China, India, and Brazil,) deforestation, farts from over seven billion people

, and all that kinda stuff. Denying climate change is like denying that the Holocaust happened ... faced with mountains of evidence ... photographic, documentary (even the minutes of the Wannsee Conference are available) some folks just say "Nah ... didn't happen. Just another Jewish conspiracy." Denying climate change is an ideological point of view, and it has nothing at all to do with scientific research, most of which is ideologically neutral. This planet is a dangerous, unstable place ... the Universe is even scarier ... human activity is quickly making things worse.

Margaret Pilkington · 06-10-2015, 18:05

I cannot argue with the deforestation issues, but as far as other things go....the scientists have been producing statistics that have been shown to be flawed.
And really, if governments were serious about making sustainable energy a central issue, surely they would choose to invest in something which is more efficient than those useless wind turbines.....they have to be switched off when the winds are too high. How ridiculous is that.

Recycling, well that is something I have always done.
I grew up just after the war and we never threw anything away which could be re-used.
We recycled long before there was a requirement to do so.

There has always been fluctuations in climate.....the ozone layer was supposed to have a thundering great hole in it.....but this over the last few years seems to have got smaller.

What is the point exactly of us trying to limit CO2 emissions when what we produce is something in the region of 2%.......while India and China do not sign up to any kind of control over their industrial emissions.
You may say that every little helps, but my question is.....does it?
I do not deny the holocaust.
Nor do I see my view as being ideological. I am just very very sceptical of research, researchers, research methods.....because in the main they tend to prove what the commissioners of the research want it to show.

DaveinGermany · 06-10-2015, 18:42

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Originally Posted by accyman

no idea where the pic was taken

Probably Liverpool, the guy (back left) is trying to have his trainers away!

accyman · 06-10-2015, 21:02

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Probably Liverpool, the guy (back left) is trying to have his trainers away!

ill just check but i dont think you can be scousist yet although scouse may now fall under race category

at least you didnt suggest they wouldnt have tried nicking his footwear if he had been wearing work boots

accyman · 06-10-2015, 21:06

i do hope the 5p charge dosnt apply to all plastic bags if folk with a colostomy get a bout of the shats it could bankrupt them

DaveinGermany · 07-10-2015, 05:27

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Originally Posted by accyman

ill just check but i dont think you can be scousist yet although scouse may now fall under race category

Being a denizen of said metropolis, what I say doesn't count.

at least you didnt suggest they wouldnt have tried nicking his footwear if he had been wearing work boots

This comment mind, will have the offendee nazis after your arse.

Give it time mate, give it time.

Morecambe Ex Pat · 07-10-2015, 06:52

I never denied that climate change is happening and neither did I deny the Holocaust but I am at a loss as to the latter's relevance to this debate.

I don't doubt that man's actions are speeding up the effect but the point I was making is that climate change would happen anyway otherwise we would still be under a thick sheet of ice. As micro-organisms started to grow they emitted gases which started to affect the chemical balance of the earth. This effect continued to increase for millions of years as new species started to evolve. Man's contribution to the effect has been much faster but the effect itself was around long before man had evolved. The climate of the earth would still be changing even if man had never set foot here.

Volcanos spewing millions of tonnes of toxic gases into the atmosphere have had far more of an effect than man could ever do and have been a major cause of our planet's evolution and topography. Everything in nature evolves and as time passes, other effects will be noticed, as the sun loses it's mass by burning off energy, the ice caps will melt, sea levels will rise and changes in tidal streams will affect weather patterns.

kestrelx · 07-10-2015, 16:14

I am sure back in 80's some supermarkets charged for stronger bags anyway as i recall.