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10-11-2005, 17:21
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Re: 90 days detention
Just looked at the Voting and heres a surprise with a No Vote a certain Jerry Adams you would have thought he would have voted against it, also Paisley voted for it! it a strange world when 2 ex, and I use the word loosely, terrorists vote on a matter like this.
The full list of voters
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005520222,00.html
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10-11-2005, 18:24
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Re: 90 days detention
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Originally Posted by entwisi
One problem is that this bill would give them power to detain ANYONE who spoke against them for three months without charge. Remember that old bloke at the party conference? Yep they could have stuck him away till after Xmas with absolutely no charge or comeback just for disagreeing with Straw. Whilst I agree that we should be vigilant against terrorists you can't go locking people up for no reason. there lies the stuff of horror stories.
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Indeed. I totaly agree with the 90day terrorism bill (even if I do detest Blair, but no point voting against him for the hell of it when hes actualy talking sense)
BUT measures have to be put in so that the police can't abuse the terrorism act, the prime example of it is of course the guy at the labour party conference who was held under the terrorism act. Completly unapropriate and quite frankly an abuse of power.
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10-11-2005, 18:27
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Re: 90 days detention
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Indeed. I totaly agree with the 90day terrorism bill (even if I do detest Blair, but no point voting against him for the hell of it when hes actualy talking sense)
BUT measures have to be put in so that the police can't abuse the terrorism act, the prime example of it is of course the guy at the labour party conference who was held under the terrorism act. Completly unapropriate and quite frankly an abuse of power.
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It's a pity the Tory's who voted against the bill didn't agree with you. Using this to score political points was a definite vote looser for your party.
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10-11-2005, 18:52
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Re: 90 days detention
Personally, I think that it is disgraceful that British MP's should be more concerned over the human rights of a minority of terroist scum than concerned with national security and the protection of the lives of law-abiding, tax-paying British citizens.
It just goes to prove, yet again, how removed from everyday reality these people really are. As for Pope, he will do whatever the government tell him to do; rebels go to the back of the queue when preferment is being considered.
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10-11-2005, 19:25
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Re: 90 days detention
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10-11-2005, 19:26
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Re: 90 days detention
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Personally, I think that it is disgraceful that British MP's should be more concerned over the human rights of a minority of terroist scum than concerned with national security and the protection of the lives of law-abiding, tax-paying British citizens.
It just goes to prove, yet again, how removed from everyday reality these people really are. As for Pope, he will do whatever the government tell him to do; rebels go to the back of the queue when preferment is being considered.
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I totally agree with you A-B.
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10-11-2005, 23:14
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Re: 90 days detention
Heres the first one on his way back, good old Greg, he might even move to Accy what would our leader do then?.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005520291,00.html
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10-11-2005, 23:18
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Re: 90 days detention
He'll probably even get his benefits back dated.
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10-11-2005, 23:46
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Re: 90 days detention
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that took me unawares bazf-didn't take you for a sun reader.
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11-11-2005, 01:00
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Re: 90 days detention
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It's a pity the Tory's who voted against the bill didn't agree with you. Using this to score political points was a definite vote looser for your party.
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Yup, I dont get it and quite surprised at the way they voted considering what the prospective leaders have been saying..
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11-11-2005, 02:08
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Re: 90 days detention
End result of this mad preachers will return.
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11-11-2005, 03:20
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Re: 90 days detention
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even he prefers our country to the sh1t hole hes been living in.
wheres he going to live when hes blown up this country the hypocryt
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11-11-2005, 04:36
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Re: 90 days detention
greg voted for this bill right???
that means he supported this bill
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11-11-2005, 09:49
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Re: 90 days detention
Yes Greg Pope supported the bill, and voted with the Prime Minister.
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11-11-2005, 11:56
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Re: 90 days detention
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Originally Posted by Cyfr
Indeed. I totaly agree with the 90day terrorism bill (even if I do detest Blair, but no point voting against him for the hell of it when hes actualy talking sense)
BUT measures have to be put in so that the police can't abuse the terrorism act, the prime example of it is of course the guy at the labour party conference who was held under the terrorism act. Completly unapropriate and quite frankly an abuse of power.
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I quite agree though of course it was not the Police that detained him rather the cronies hired as security men by the Labour party for the conference. The man in question (the detainee) was advised to sue the Labour party for security guards do not have the right to detain only remove!
Though as as been proven the case many times already, Blair considers himself above the law!
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