A bit of sense at last

jaysay · 15-10-2010, 10:23

BBC News - Cameron backs proposed health and safety law reforms

At last a bit of sense over the health and safety nonsense, and a curb on ambulance chasers is long over due, we have got to a situation where there is no genuine no fault accidents anymore, a lot of these so called "accidents" could be avoided if people themselves were more careful and were no always looking for some one to blame, when most of the time its their own stupid fault

cmonstanley · 16-10-2010, 07:58

same old headlining grabbing what a load of rubbish his report only covers teachers and office workers and health and safety consultants who do assesments already have to be qualified and putting their names on a database dont add up

nthats not very safe is it and theres no way they can get round any compensation laws unless people are given a disclaimer

SPUGGIE J · 16-10-2010, 08:43

Sadly the BLAME GAME has become big business lately and is out of control. All it does is push up premiums and make those in the blaming game a lot of money. If an accident is genuine then why the hell would people want to try and get money out of it and drag it through the courts. Soon accidentally bumping into someone in the street or clipping there ankle in a supermarket with a trolley will be compo claims. Then there is the chance they might want the poor ****** who did the bumping or clipping charged with assault. Common sense is no longer used sadly and we will be worse of for it.

jaysay · 16-10-2010, 08:49

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J

Sadly the BLAME GAME has become big business lately and is out of control. All it does is push up premiums and make those in the blaming game a lot of money. If an accident is genuine then why the hell would people want to try and get money out of it and drag it through the courts. Soon accidentally bumping into someone in the street or clipping there ankle in a supermarket with a trolley will be compo claims. Then there is the chance they might want the poor ****** who did the bumping or clipping charged with assault. Common sense is no longer used sadly and we will be worse of for it.

Exactly my take on it to Spugs, you only have to look at the TV ads to see that, well some of us do that is

SPUGGIE J · 16-10-2010, 09:00

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Exactly my take on it to Spugs, you only have to look at the TV ads to see that, well some of us do that is

Others though see it as a way to easy money and there is a good chance the will go out to try and "have an accident" to get compensation. The line between genuine accidents and those of the silly chace em ones is now blurred. Who cant be sued now for money over anything?

If I buy a new set of sharp knives for the kitchen and cut myself does that mean I could sue the maker of the knife that assaulted me and drew blood?

cmonstanley · 16-10-2010, 09:36

but its only headline making in the tory press if you read it its only for office workers and teahers nothing will change its all words and headline grabbing itws not went through parliament yet so dont hold your breath.

Less · 16-10-2010, 09:43

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

itws not went through parliament yet so dont hold your breath.

It won't go through Parliament until it has been assessed for risks, as for holding our breath? What are you some sort of health & safety worker, of course we won't hold our breath, common sense says that is dangerous, we don't need telling.

jaysay · 16-10-2010, 09:44

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Originally Posted by Less

It won't go through Parliament until it has been assessed for risks, as for holding our breath? What are you some sort of health & safety worker, of course we won't hold our breath, common sense says that is dangerous, we don't need telling.

Good point Less, I can't hold my breath even if I wanted to

Benipete · 16-10-2010, 10:52

I blame Stan Ogden.

DaveinGermany · 16-10-2010, 13:15

It is a sad but true fact, that due to rules & regulations set in place mainly by the last Government, the deadwood & s'not fair crowd seem to see everything as someone else's fault & take no responsibility for their own actions. Someone's to blame, it's not my fault ! I know my rights ! & I want compensation from someone ! Now rules the roost, it really annoys me that this is the way the UK has turned out, a culture of claims, counter claims & compensation ...... depressing, it really is.

I understand there are some really genuine cases & that's fine we all should be cared for if some tool has been incompetent, but some pig who burns their face shovelling a Maccy D's down their gullet ? Your own fault ! Of course it was going to be hot you Muppet !

I don't half despair ! So this new Government say they're going to cut back on all this H&S crap, well great & the sooner the better. People say they're fed up with being treated like kids & being told what to do well here's a start at least, grow up & take responsibility for your own actions, accidents will happen but have the decency to be fair about them not every incident requires a claim !

Gordon Booth · 16-10-2010, 13:41

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

if you read it its only for office workers and teahers n

It doesn't say that at all! It says 'for non-hazardous occupations SUCH AS office workers and teachers'. So if you erect scaffolding at the top of a 100 storey building Health and Safety will apply, if you're a librarian presumably it won't, should you drop a book on your foot! THAT is an accident,they happen.

jaysay · 16-10-2010, 14:12

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

It doesn't say that at all! It says 'for non-hazardous occupations SUCH AS office workers and teachers'. So if you erect scaffolding at the top of a 100 storey building Health and Safety will apply, if you're a librarian presumably it won't, should you drop a book on your foot! THAT is an accident,they happen.

You have to make exceptions for the likes of CS and Mancie they look at the world through rose colours specs and can't see anything constructive put forward by anybody but Labour, the problems is Labour never got anything right