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30-11-2007, 20:10
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Re: A Law Unto Themselves?
There are shops here that won't serve people who don't look twenty five without ID. The off licence near the Oakleigh is one of them.
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30-11-2007, 20:26
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Re: A Law Unto Themselves?
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My comment was about Asda at Grimshaw Park, Blackburn and far from being wrong was spot on. Not Asda in Hull Cyfr or any other Asda. It was written clear enough for all to see. Not only do you need glasses Tealeaf but a functioning brain as well.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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In my defence I was merely giving further information to say that if this rule is in Blackburn, its not in Hull, so its not a national thing.
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30-11-2007, 20:39
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Re: A Law Unto Themselves?
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He still won't agree with you. If you stood the sign up his **** he would still argue about it.
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As one eloquent Scottish judge was heard to declare when passing judgement on a case involving toll fees, “A sign should state what it means, and mean what it states.”
I don’t care what signs there are in the rest of the world, the ones at Asda at Grimshaw Park in Blackburn state nothing about having to prove you are over 18 before being able to buy booze.
I can’t quote the sign verbatim but the message is quite clear. If you can’t prove you are over 21 you cannot buy booze.
Go and see for yourself.
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30-11-2007, 23:31
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Re: A Law Unto Themselves?
Entwisti was right actually, asda was actually one of the first companies to stop selling tobacco to under 18's before the law was actually finalised, at least in my local asda anyway, and has the ability to do the same with alcohol even if it isn't actually written in law that thats policy. Policy doesn't have to be formally written in law, thats why its policy.
Also his explanation of the law is spot on aswell and the way he explains it with the example of the speed limit is good aswell.
If ASDA dont want to sell you something they dont have to, and that stands for any product whether its got age restrictions or not. Different stores might have different policies on it and sell to over 18's or just over 21's, but both are legal and it is not making their own laws, it comes under the law of contract.
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30-11-2007, 23:33
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Re: A Law Unto Themselves?
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Originally Posted by jambutty
As one eloquent Scottish judge was heard to declare when passing judgement on a case involving toll fees, “A sign should state what it means, and mean what it states.”
I don’t care what signs there are in the rest of the world, the ones at Asda at Grimshaw Park in Blackburn state nothing about having to prove you are over 18 before being able to buy booze.
I can’t quote the sign verbatim but the message is quite clear. If you can’t prove you are over 21 you cannot buy booze.
Go and see for yourself.
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Scottish law is different than English law...
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01-12-2007, 10:57
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Re: A Law Unto Themselves?
From Asda's press centre:
ASDA and Responsible Retailing
All ASDA stores in the UK (apart from those undertaking the trial) have a strict policy of only serving customers who look over 21, and refusing to serve anyone who is already under the influence of alcohol.
Seems Jambutty's a little slow off the mark (must be his age). The press release is dated April 2007. Asda Press Centre
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01-12-2007, 13:38
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Re: A Law Unto Themselves?
its not just asda alot of places have now put the age up its the same with cigarettes now have to be eightteen
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01-12-2007, 13:51
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Re: A Law Unto Themselves?
Dosn't matter what the law says or what restrictions shops supermarkets etc put in place those not meant to have the products always will find a way. There are some who buy it for those not old enough and despite the possibility of being arrested themselves. No matter what happens they will always be a way to get it.
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01-12-2007, 18:38
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Re: A Law Unto Themselves?
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Oh! By the way Tealeaf! Would you be so kind as to lead me to the Asda supermarket in Darwen? I’ve searched the length and breadth of Darwen and I can’t find it. Could it possibly be because there isn’t an Asda supermarket in Darwen.
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Oh dear. So there is no Asda in Darwen! And there was I, being nice and kind to 'ol Jambutty, suggesting he goes to his local Asda rather than the one in Blackburn, and what do I get for my honest mistake? A wild and totally undeserved tirade. Mind you, I suspect the reason there is no Asda store in this town is the Asda bosses took one look at the typical Darwen customer profile and decided to give it a big miss. After all, would you want some grumpy git blocking the checkout counters with rants about the law and insulting all and sundry staff and customers? No, it would'nt be worth the hassle.
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01-12-2007, 18:48
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Re: A Law Unto Themselves?
Goodness me what an incredibly aggressive response. Has it not occurred to you that as everyone else seems to be more or less in agreement with each other that you quite possibly could be mistaken in your condemnation of the ASDA at Grimshaw Park? I really must pop over there one day to have a look at these notices which have caused such a kerfuffle.
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01-12-2007, 19:15
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Re: A Law Unto Themselves?
I've just done a quick google and the scheme is called "Challenge 21" Most of the posters etc do seem to mention the age 18 but not all of them do.
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01-12-2007, 23:08
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Re: A Law Unto Themselves?
Nice rant, only one problem. The stuff I posted was correct factual information. So no matter what YOU believe what I said was accurate, factual and more importantly TO THE POINT. YOu started ranting in an ill informed position and once again go off on one when someone sets you straight.
If you were only so not hung up on a simple tag line. I also see it doesn't get in YOUR way when YOU ask for help and I offer it(see many requests for technical help).
Perhaps as a Tech God I'm expected to be a spotty 15 YO in a room full of computers with no life away from binary. Well, get this, I'm not.
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02-12-2007, 00:27
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Re: A Law Unto Themselves?
I make an assumption here , and as we know we should never assume, but I thought by posting a thread on a site such as this, then one illicit’s the viewpoint of others. To harangue the subsequent posters in this thread in such an abusive manner ………..have some respect mister jambutty
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02-12-2007, 12:21
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Re: A Law Unto Themselves?
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Originally Posted by entwisi
Nice rant, only one problem. The stuff I posted was correct factual information. So no matter what YOU believe what I said was accurate, factual and more importantly TO THE POINT. YOu started ranting in an ill informed position and once again go off on one when someone sets you straight.
If you were only so not hung up on a simple tag line. I also see it doesn't get in YOUR way when YOU ask for help and I offer it(see many requests for technical help).
Perhaps as a Tech God I'm expected to be a spotty 15 YO in a room full of computers with no life away from binary. Well, get this, I'm not.
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Its JBs way or the highway as always ian
Are you not? always had that sort of image of you lol
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02-12-2007, 12:30
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Re: A Law Unto Themselves?
As a newcomer, I havn't seen aggressive behaviour untill now, and I feel that, originally, a question was asked, people answered, rightly or wrongly, and as an opinion, it matters and is that persons opinion, but to then be castigated in such a manner seems at least extreme, I am in agreement JB that you may not agree with the REQUESTED responses, but do feel, especially at this time of year, that a more pleasant response would have been appropriate, there is usually no call for personal attack. Oh, this is just an opinion too, but I feel some will agree and some will not, THAT, is thier god given right!
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