A quick question - who wants to take away the legal guarantee protecting your rights - Page 4

Eric · 27-02-2009, 00:14

Ooops ... sorry, I hadn't realized that the question was rhetorical ... what a silly bunt I am

shakermaker · 27-02-2009, 00:22

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Most of the people who live in trailer parks south of the Mason-Dixon line

Seeing as you're on a poetic binge tonight I was going to quote some Oliver Wendell Holmes poem from the civil war... but I've forgotten it.
The thought was there

Eric · 27-02-2009, 01:21

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Originally Posted by shakermaker

Seeing as you're on a poetic binge tonight I was going to quote some Oliver Wendell Holmes poem from the civil war... but I've forgotten it.
The thought was there

Thanx for the thought ... I'm not normally this poetic, but I'm sorting thro' my books, attempting to impose a little order .... and I can't resist turning a few pages

Benipete · 27-02-2009, 01:47

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Thanx for the thought ... I'm not normally this poetic, but I'm sorting thro' my books, attempting to impose a little order .... and I can't resist turning a few pages

Ah! Turning over a new leaf,Well done.

Eric · 27-02-2009, 01:53

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Ah! Turning over a new leaf,Well done.

Oh yes ... groaners ... love 'em. Jokes like this make me feel right a tome

andrewb · 27-02-2009, 03:18

Turkish delight seems to have been ignored by you Claytonender?

Can you guarantee that policies such as 4 week holiday are going to be abolished? Or is this simply a long awaited movement of decision making power to a British Government? Isn't it about a time we decided our own laws, rather than having an unelected body in Europe make them? I hope you agree with me on democracy.

Mancie · 27-02-2009, 04:40

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Turkish delight seems to have been ignored by you Claytonender?

Can you guarantee that policies such as 4 week holiday are going to be abolished? Or is this simply a long awaited movement of decision making power to a British Government? Isn't it about a time we decided our own laws, rather than having an unelected body in Europe make them? I hope you agree with me on democracy.

Who's laws are we talking about Andrew? .. Tory laws ? the old unwritten laws that lets men die working in unsafe jobs for the sake of profits... wake up man...these laws are in place to ensure that employers don't have to pay out massive amounts to people injured at work and such... i'ts not about workers taking liberties it boils down to ensuring everyone knowns were they stand as basic security for employers and the people they employ....there is no "us and them" in this.....

Wynonie Harris · 27-02-2009, 08:37

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Isn't it about a time we decided our own laws, rather than having an unelected body in Europe make them? I hope you agree with me on democracy.

...and I hope you agree with ME that we should pull out of the whole EU disaster...but, then again, that's not Tory policy, is it?

claytonender · 27-02-2009, 08:49

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Turkish delight seems to have been ignored by you Claytonender?

Can you guarantee that policies such as 4 week holiday are going to be abolished? Or is this simply a long awaited movement of decision making power to a British Government? Isn't it about a time we decided our own laws, rather than having an unelected body in Europe make them? I hope you agree with me on democracy.

As Rindi kindly answered her question about which unions the email was from I didn't think I needed to reply. Also as I don't have her email address I can't forward on the email, but is she contacts me at my HBC email address - which is [email protected] I will very happy to forward her the email.

Pardon me for my ignorance, but I was under the impression that every 5 years we elected MEP - in fact there is an election on 4 June . I am sure you will be voting for Arlene McCarthy Brian Simpson and Teresa Griffin.

Incidentally I did get to meet your mother last night at Full Council and the Labour Group put forward a fully costed budget (approved by the Chief Financial Officier) which would have ment Hyndburn's council's tax rising by 2.9% and the overall coucil tax bill by 3.05%. The Tory budget was for a 4.9% rise in Hyndburn's share of the Council Tax and overall a rise of 3.35%

garinda · 27-02-2009, 09:02

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Originally Posted by claytonender

As Rindi kindly answered her question about which unions the email was from I didn't think I needed to reply. Also as I don't have her email address I can't forward on the email, but is she contacts me at my HBC email address - which is [email protected] I will very happy to forward her the email.

As you say, I thought I'd answered that particular demand.

Though that remained unacknowledged.

Perhaps like other things, she just didn't see it.

andrewb · 27-02-2009, 09:34

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Originally Posted by claytonender

As Rindi kindly answered her question about which unions the email was from I didn't think I needed to reply. Also as I don't have her email address I can't forward on the email, but is she contacts me at my HBC email address - which is [email protected] I will very happy to forward her the email.

Pardon me for my ignorance, but I was under the impression that every 5 years we elected MEP - in fact there is an election on 4 June . I am sure you will be voting for Arlene McCarthy Brian Simpson and Teresa Griffin.

Well that's nice of you to ignore her question, and then ignore mine. I'll quote what I said:

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Originally Posted by andrewb

Can you guarantee that policies such as 4 week holiday are going to be abolished? Or is this simply a long awaited movement of decision making power to a British Government? Isn't it about a time we decided our own laws, rather than having an unelected body in Europe make them? I hope you agree with me on democracy.

Yes Wynonie Harris I agree with you, Europe is very damaging for us, and we need to start deciding our own laws. The Conservative party are simply not tough enough on Europe, they need to do much more. Claytonender shows her ignorance by believing electing MEP's means anything. MEP's cannot have a mandate, they do not initiate legislation, that is the role of unelected bureaucrats who are accountable to nobody, and have not had their finances accepted by the audit office for 12 years running. What a shambles it is.

Bring our laws back home to Britain, bring decision making back to Britain, bring democracy back to Britain.

claytonender · 27-02-2009, 10:31

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Well that's nice of you to ignore her question, and then ignore mine. I'll quote what I said:.

As I was rather busy last night I only saw the one question from turkishdelight - the one about which union I had got the email from - which Rindy answered.

However the title of this thread was - 'A quick question - who wants to take away the legal guarantee protecting your rights' which I asked for peoples views on. I posted the full context of the email (which included links tot he TULO website - where anyone could view the backing information).

And in case you are unclear my personal views are that any future Tory government would revert to type and 'screw' the workers as they have always done for centuries. The current Tory leadership are a wolf in sheeps clothing.

Maybe when you are older you will have more experience of life and will not just talk out of your backside.

Wynonie Harris · 27-02-2009, 11:57

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Yes Wynonie Harris I agree with you, Europe is very damaging for us, and we need to start deciding our own laws. The Conservative party are simply not tough enough on Europe, they need to do much more. Claytonender shows her ignorance by believing electing MEP's means anything. MEP's cannot have a mandate, they do not initiate legislation, that is the role of unelected bureaucrats who are accountable to nobody, and have not had their finances accepted by the audit office for 12 years running. What a shambles it is.

Bring our laws back home to Britain, bring decision making back to Britain, bring democracy back to Britain.

Quite right, democracy is a dirty word in the Brussels parliament. That's why the Irish are being made to vote on the treaty again, because they got the wrong answer last time (they rejected it). So much for the will of the people! As for the corruption and waste in the EU, it's a scandal which far outweighs anything in this country, but, of course, those who support the EU blithely choose to ignore it.

jaysay · 27-02-2009, 12:13

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Quite right, democracy is a dirty word in the Brussels parliament. That's why the Irish are being made to vote on the treaty again, because they got the wrong answer last time (they rejected it). So much for the will of the people! As for the corruption and waste in the EU, it's a scandal which far outweighs anything in this country, but, of course, those who support the EU blithely choose to ignore it.

Democracy in Brussels never seems to sprout any green shoots Wynonie,

like you said the Irish are being asked to vote again until they get the right result, mind you we didn't even get a vote to get it wrong in the first place

Mancie · 01-03-2009, 03:39

hey lets get back to the "good Old Tory Victorian days"...