A tax on lightbulbs. - Page 3

Margaret Pilkington · 19-07-2006, 19:45

This thread has become ever so technical...but at least I am learning things that I didn't know before...thanks you clever chaps!

Madhatter · 19-07-2006, 19:49

Jambutty tries to confuse things MP, it's very simple, a flourescent gives out more light, a 21watt is equivelent to a 100watt.

Margaret Pilkington · 19-07-2006, 19:55

I am coming round to that idea now.........and yes my kitchen flourescent used to be low wattage but was just as bright......just a different sort of light.
I don't have it anymore.......I have those new fangled halogen spot bulbs......I haven't a clue whether they are more economical or not....except i haven't had to change one in over 5 years.......It is sod's law now that they are sure to blow!

Madhatter · 19-07-2006, 19:56

depends if they are low voltage of a transformer mp

Margaret Pilkington · 19-07-2006, 19:59

Oh Gosh I don't know.....i just know that I haven't had to change one of them since I had my kitchen updated and that must be 5 or 6 years ago.

Neil · 19-07-2006, 20:07

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Originally Posted by Madhatter

depends if they are low voltage of a transformer mp

Does it? Why?

No Margaret they are not more economical. Each one could be 10w or 20w or even 50w. I have 6 50w ones in our kitchen, that is 300w in total. I would probably get a better and more even light if I had 1 or maybe 2 70w florescents.

Margaret Pilkington · 19-07-2006, 20:12

I have four low wattage ones over my work tops and three 50 watts in the ceiling.....it is only a small kitchen and in the main I use the counter top lights. I have two large picture windows so except in Winter the kitchen is probably the lightest room in the house.

Madhatter · 19-07-2006, 20:14

lol just realised what I said, no they aren't more economical than a flourescent.
doh @ me and thanks neil

Neil · 19-07-2006, 20:16

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I have four low wattage ones over my work tops and three 50 watts in the ceiling.

So that will be either 190w is the counter ones are 10w or 230w if they are 20w. You are single handedly bringing the end of the world closer with that lot

Madhatter · 19-07-2006, 20:19

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I have four low wattage ones over my work tops and three 50 watts in the ceiling.....it is only a small kitchen and in the main I use the counter top lights. I have two large picture windows so except in Winter the kitchen is probably the lightest room in the house.

I wouldn't bother mp don't start changing ceilling fittings. dunno if neil will agree but it's not wirth the hasle.

Margaret Pilkington · 19-07-2006, 20:20

I am very sure that there are a lot more folk out there who are helping me, seeing as this was a very popular design of kitchen....and as I said I don't use them very much except in winter....the reason for having two large picture windows in the kitchen was to let in more natural light and to open up what is a small kitchen. I certainly don't plan to change them at the moment.

Margaret Pilkington · 19-07-2006, 20:23

I like my kitchen, just the way it is........... I waited a long long time to get it, and have no plans to change it in the forseeable future.

Neil · 19-07-2006, 21:52

Only pulling your leg Margaret. Those lamps are very popular, florescents are horrible looking things and have no place in your home. What we need is investment into cheap enviromentally friendly power sources so we can use as much electricity as we want. Stuff all this save and switch of rubbish, just make more and more green power for us all.

andrewb · 19-07-2006, 23:19

On a side note, we bought some 'extra value' lightbulbs, and well, my friend turned the light on yesterday, to have it explode and come crashing down upon me! Scared me to death as it was pitch black so could just see red hot burning fragments falling to me

I should have really replaced it though, as the other bulb did exactly the same last week.

chav1 · 20-07-2006, 10:33

ahh energy saving lighbulbs ...

yup they take that long to warm up and get to full brightness that by the time they are at full brightness you dont need the light on anymore

when does the tax on air come into effect as i think its the only thing left that isnt taxed and do asthmatics get reduced rates , will low income familys get put on card meters for air and how much emergency air will be given to last until payday should credit on the meter run out , where will these meters be installed