A Teddy Bear Called ............... - Page 9

MargaretR · 02-12-2007, 09:01

This cartoon from the Times today
(just had to show you

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derekgas · 02-12-2007, 09:23

Margaret! Off to the gallows with you young lady! lol

MargaretR · 02-12-2007, 09:27

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Margaret! Off to the gallows with you young lady! lol

Love the 'young' bit

cashman · 02-12-2007, 10:33

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Originally Posted by steeljack

just curious have either Bob Geldorf or Bono made any kind of plea for this woman , just wondering since they seem to be the most vocal when it comes to stamping their feet and jumping up and down for the dis-enfranchised in Africa

doubt it,but watch em jump n stamp, if we threaten to withdraw aid! which this gutless lot SHOULD.

derekgas · 02-12-2007, 10:50

I wouldn't stop at withdrawing the aid, (and not just for sudan), but that's another tale, and would get me in trouble!

Wynonie Harris · 02-12-2007, 13:16

Ironic really that moderate British muslims have shown more steel in denouncing the whole shameful episode that our own hapless, gutless government. The Muslim Council of Britain said they were "appalled" at the "disgraceful decision" to convict, whereas Mr Bean...sorry, Mr Brown merely expressed "surprise" and "disappointment". Can you imagine this increasingly discredited bunch withdrawing even one penny of the millions of pounds of aid we currently donate to Sudan?

Eric · 02-12-2007, 20:10

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I think we should remember its less than 200 yrs since they hung a Monkey on an English street thinking it was a Frenchman ,and we had supposedly gone thru the 'enlightenment'.

And only about 80 yrs since the Scopes Monkey Trial

steeljack · 02-12-2007, 20:16

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And only about 80 yrs since the Scopes Monkey Trial

thanks Eric , exactly the point I was trying to make

Eric · 02-12-2007, 20:20

Islam is the youngest of the Abrahamic religions. Without going to google, I think that Mohamed died around 630 AD. It is the only one that has a "real" history. I can think of few, actually only one, referrence to the historical Jesus. I just had the thought that if one places Christianity at, say, 30AD and Islam at 600 AD we have a religion about 600 years younger .... I know, brilliant math ... If one subtracts ... here's where the math gets difficult ... 600 from 2007 one gets, let me see, 1407 AD. So perhaps, instead of comparing muslims to modern (often uninterested) Christians, we should compare them to Christians of 1400 .... quite a different crew!

Just a muddled hurried thought .... gotta go ... its been cold and snowy here and the Polar Bears are into my garbage again.

WillowTheWhisp · 02-12-2007, 20:36

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Ironic really that moderate British muslims have shown more steel in denouncing the whole shameful episode that our own hapless, gutless government. The Muslim Council of Britain said they were "appalled" at the "disgraceful decision" to convict, whereas Mr Bean...sorry, Mr Brown merely expressed "surprise" and "disappointment". Can you imagine this increasingly discredited bunch withdrawing even one penny of the millions of pounds of aid we currently donate to Sudan?

Yes and not only British Muslims who have denounced this shameful episode. Other Muslims elsewhere have said the same. I'm disgusted with our government. Can they not see that bending over backwards trying not to offend the barbaric system in the Sudan with the excuse of it being Muslim culture, is actually an insult to Muslims worldwide who are appalled at the way Mrs Gibbons has been treated.

cashman · 02-12-2007, 22:28

apprently the 2 envoys have a meeting with the president in the morning, should be interesting.

lancsdave · 02-12-2007, 22:54

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Yes and not only British Muslims who have denounced this shameful episode. Other Muslims elsewhere have said the same. I'm disgusted with our government. Can they not see that bending over backwards trying not to offend the barbaric system in the Sudan with the excuse of it being Muslim culture, is actually an insult to Muslims worldwide who are appalled at the way Mrs Gibbons has been treated.

Hopefully the government are being soft until they get her out of the country.... then nuke em

WillowTheWhisp · 02-12-2007, 23:06

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apprently the 2 envoys have a meeting with the president in the morning, should be interesting.

Let's hope they have a successful outcome.

West Ender · 03-12-2007, 13:34

So Ms Gibbons has been pardoned and is now in the British Embassy preparing to come home. If a pardon can be granted so easily it says a great deal about the original (trumped up) charge.

WillowTheWhisp · 03-12-2007, 14:29

I think we should spare a moment or two to thank Baroness Warsi and Lord Ahmed who went over there to plead on her behalf with the Sudanese President. Perhaps it finally got through to them how ludicrously out of proportion the whole thing had become when they were told so by fellow Muslims.