Abortion limit....Rejected! - Page 3

flashy · 21-05-2008, 18:24

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Originally Posted by andrewb

Greg Pope voted to reduce it to 20 days and then 22 days.

do you mean weeks darling?

emamum · 21-05-2008, 18:24

lol... i thought he was making a joke lol

andrewb · 21-05-2008, 18:26

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Originally Posted by flashytart

do you mean weeks darling?

Haha yes. I've corrected it, well spotted.

flashy · 21-05-2008, 18:28

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Originally Posted by andrewb

Haha yes. I've corrected it, well spotted.

its the change of name Cyfr, its messed yer head up

katex · 21-05-2008, 19:07

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf

He's a good catholic boy - did he abstain? under

Is he Tealeaf ? Does appear to be a pattern of religious ethical/emotive voting here though.

slinky · 21-05-2008, 19:17

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Originally Posted by flashytart

your quite right Less, i had a threatened miscarriage when i was 8 weeks pregnant with Reece, some years later i was at the doctors with Reece and i was looking at my notes on the computer screen and it said 'threatened abortion at 8 weeks' i was mortified to read that and i mentioned it to my doctor and he said 'no it doesnt mean you threatened to have an abortion it simply means you had a threatened miscarriage'

Try being on an abortion ward when you have just miscarried a baby that you wanted so much!! and even the doctors comes round and say " ahh yes, Abortion at 12 weeks gone " ...... Now that really hurts.

Margaret Pilkington · 21-05-2008, 19:22

When i first started nursing I looked after a woman who tried to abort an unwanted pregnancy. Abortion was legal at the time, but her doctor would not refer her for a legal one so she tried the do it yourself method and she almost died.
As Less rightly observes, in a perfect world there would be no need of abortion....but it is not a perfect world.
No-one will force an abortion on you, but is the right of the woman in question to choose....and it cannot be an easy choice, remember it has to be lived with for the whole of her life.
It is too easy to generalise and to judge....there but for the grace of God!

Margaret Pilkington · 21-05-2008, 19:24

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Originally Posted by slinky

Try being on an abortion ward when you have just miscarried a baby that you wanted so much!! and even the doctors comes round and say " ahh yes, Abortion at 12 weeks gone " ...... Now that really hurts.

Slinky, of course you are right....that does hurt, but you must remember that Doctors are using the word in it's medical sense.
I have worked on such a ward and I know that it isn't easy.

slinky · 21-05-2008, 19:39

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Slinky, of course you are right....that does hurt, but you must remember that Doctors are using the word in it's medical sense.
I have worked on such a ward and I know that it isn't easy.

I understand the terminology. I Thought it was awful that, as a women that lost my baby that I wanted so much, and all around me were women that got to choose whether to have theirs or not. I couldn't wait to get off that ward.

Margaret Pilkington · 21-05-2008, 19:45

It has always been that way, and to be honest it isn't right that you knew what another patient was having done...the rules of confidentiality are supposed to be upheld to prevent this kind of thing.
You both needed treatment, and you both received treatment......that you should know the details of another patients treatment is what was wrong.

By the way, I am not suggesting that you knowing what someone else was having done was any fault of yours.

slinky · 21-05-2008, 19:48

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

It has always been that way, and to be honest it isn't right that you knew what another patient was having done...the rules of confidentiality are supposed to be upheld to prevent this kind of thing.
You both needed treatment, and you both received treatment......that you should know the details of another patients treatment is what was wrong.

By the way, I am not suggesting that you knowing what someone else was having done was any fault of yours.

Well, the little bitch at the side of me didn't look too bothered about telling the whole ward about her 2nd termination

God I could have snotted that cow.

Margaret Pilkington · 21-05-2008, 19:54

You always get one or two like that, but to be honest they were in the minority.

And although Parliament has thrown out the bill to bring down the time limit for Termination of pregnancy, many consultants operate their own time limit which is well below 24 weeks.
The termination of a pregnancy at 20 weeks is unpleasant for all concerned.

BERNADETTE · 21-05-2008, 20:00

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Originally Posted by slinky

Well, the little bitch at the side of me didn't look too bothered about telling the whole ward about her 2nd termination

God I could have snotted that cow.

There must be a few like her then, many years ago my sister-in-law was in for exploratory surgery to find out why she was having problems conceiving. She was heartbroken because there were women in having their third or fourth abortion and not caring who knew it. Some women view it as a form of birth control which it isn't.

emamum · 21-05-2008, 20:02

i know its not the same but i had a friend that had an abortion around the same time i lost my first baby and even asked me to go with her... we dont talk any more!

slinky · 21-05-2008, 20:03

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

There must be a few like her then, many years ago my sister-in-law was in for exploratory surgery to find out why she was having problems conceiving. She was heartbroken because there were women in having their third or fourth abortion and not caring who knew it. Some women view it as a form of birth control which it isn't.

I feel for your sister-in-law, because I know how I felt. Then to make matters worse, after my D&C, they made me stay over night because I didn't get taken down til 6pm

All I wanted to do was get away from that ward and go home to my family and Ginger, just to go home to where people really cared how I was feeling and not just going through the motions.