Abortion limit....Rejected! - Page 5

katex · 21-05-2008, 21:12

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Originally Posted by slinky

What I disagree with is someone getting pregnant BY ACCIDENT, then using it as contraception. Yes I agree that in this day and age there shouldn't be any need for BACK STREET ABORTIONS. But then again, in this day and age, there really shouldn't be un planned pregnancies. Condoms, pill, morning after pill, coil jeeeez I could go on. But hey, these things happen.

There again, putting all the responsibility/suffering on us women, surely up to the 'fellas to check this out too. Feel there should be some law to inflict some punishment/fine/responsibilty/withdrawal of sexual pleasures for a while on the father too, wonder how many abortions we would get then.

slinky · 21-05-2008, 21:14

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Originally Posted by katex

There again, putting all the responsibility/suffering on us women, surely up to the 'fellas to check this out too. Feel there should be some law to inflict some punishment/fine/responsibilty/withdrawal of sexual pleasures for a while on the father too, wonder how many abortions we would get then.

where are the fella's when it has been a one night stand?? probably no where to be seen. I for one would NEVER leave it up to a fella to protect me from getting pregnant, I can do that all by myself.

Neil · 22-05-2008, 01:26

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Originally Posted by derekgas

Through no fault of my own, I have 3 children

How can it be through no fault of your own. Did you go away for the weekend and just happened to leave a little bottle of something behind

grannyclaret · 22-05-2008, 01:45

No matter how you look at it ,,,"IT IS MURDER" that very first post says it all....at 24 weeks its a little person.....

Some women now treat abortion like going to have a tooth out

Madhatter · 22-05-2008, 02:05

You keep saying it's a woman's choice, is it not a mans choice too, and how have they got that choice, it isn't a natural choice, it's a man made choice.
They do have the choice though, but it's shame the baby hasn't, many would have chose to be aborted if they knew what lives they were going to get.

accyman · 22-05-2008, 11:16

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Originally Posted by Neil

How can it be through no fault of your own. Did you go away for the weekend and just happened to leave a little bottle of something behind

i sent him karma asking if somone put his willy in for him , you know like some kind of help the aged scheme

it was good karma

accyman · 22-05-2008, 11:26

i think the abortion limit should be raised to 25 years because from what i have seen around my estate alone would strongly suggest it should be

Greg Pope · 22-05-2008, 13:58

Just thought I'd better letter you know exactly how I voted and what the outcomes were.

Day two of the Human Fertilisation & Embryology Bill related to two issues: whether doctors should take into account a child’s need for a father before deciding whether a woman should be given fertility treatment; and amendments relating to abortion limits (the current limit is 24 weeks).

I opposed the ‘need for a father’ amendments on the grounds that it would put into statute unnecessary discrimination against single women and lesbian couples. The two amendments were defeated by 292 votes to 217 and by 290 to 222.

On reducing abortion limits I voted:

Against 12 weeks (defeated by 393 votes to 71 votes)

Against 16 weeks (defeated by 387 to 84)

For 20 weeks (defeated by 332 to 190)

Against compulsory counselling (defeated by 309 to 173)

For 22 weeks (defeated by 304 to 233).

Less · 22-05-2008, 14:49

Thank you Greg for yet again letting us know how you voted, I do feel that even if I don't agree with the way you voted that your honesty says alot for the type of person you are.

So far however, as long this post may be, we have not had one lady that actually went through an 'induced termination', coming on and putting forward their views and their reasons for such a harsh and life changing decision.

Is this because they are frightened of the scorn that may come their way from the 'I have never done anything wrong', brigade? Or is it just that although they did, have an abortion, (for whatever legitimate reason), they, feel ashamed of themselves?

I personally think it's a side of the argument/discussion that is sadly lacking from this thread.

Can we, (accyweb) allow someone to come on and give us the truth about why, what and wherefore without stigmatising such a brave Lady?

It is easy for us to theorise, but nobody so far has said, yes I lived in a desperate situation, I went through hell and the only decision was......

flashy · 22-05-2008, 15:49

i wouldnt have a problem with listening to somebody tell us about it, i know someone who last monday had one, i wouldnt judge anyone for having one, like i said, i'm neither for nor against it

accyman · 22-05-2008, 15:57

i could just imagine some of the red karma comments that would get left for any poor sod that was naive enough to post their story on here

not sayin all aw members would do it but lets face it theres some nasty pieces of work that would think it funny to take a pop at somone

Less · 22-05-2008, 15:59

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Originally Posted by accyman

i could just imagine some of the red karma comments that would get left for any poor sod that was naive enough to post their story on here

If that was the case it would say more about the person giving than any person brave enough to put themselves forward for such treatment!

BERNADETTE · 22-05-2008, 16:52

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Originally Posted by accyman

i could just imagine some of the red karma comments that would get left for any poor sod that was naive enough to post their story on here

not sayin all aw members would do it but lets face it theres some nasty pieces of work that would think it funny to take a pop at somone

You must have a really low opinion of the members on here if you think that they would start giving negative karma. I think most members would be sympathetic towards any woman who has undergone this procedure.

Margaret Pilkington · 22-05-2008, 17:01

I have not gone through this procedure myself, but have nursed many women who have....and their stories are very sad.....but they deserve their privacy....for every single day of their lives they have to live with their own private feelings of sadness and (for many) guilt...and wishing that circumstances could have been different, or that they could turn back the clock and do things differently.
I would certainly not judge someone for doing what they thought was best at the time.

accyman · 22-05-2008, 17:12

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

You must have a really low opinion of the members on here if you think that they would start giving negative karma. I think most members would be sympathetic towards any woman who has undergone this procedure.

yet another member who should actualy read what is written before making a stupid comments

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NOT sayin all aw members would do it but lets face it theres SOME nasty pieces of work that would think it funny to take a pop at somone

and if you disagree check out the earlier posts where somone named a woman who has had an abortion behind her boyfriends back , luckily for the girl her name has now been removed, for all we know that girls partner may be violent and not appreciate finding out about this through a public forum

so yes there are some aw members that i think are capable of doing nasty things