ACCYWEB Meeting Venue? - Page 2

Wynonie Harris · 29-06-2007, 22:35

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Originally Posted by Rosebud

Because most BNP, National Front, Combat 18 favoured haunts are adourned with Union Jacks.
I know it is unfair that the flag has been tarnished in this way- but it has. Therefore when a pub permanently displays the flag on its walls it usually (though I accept not always) reflects the political belief of the owner or patrons or both.

I wouldn't really know about that, as I've never been in any "BNP, National Front, Combat 18 favoured haunts". However, I would suggest that when most pubs display the Union Flag, it is a simple gesture of national allegiance...nothing more, nothing less.

WillowTheWhisp · 29-06-2007, 22:35

Sorry Rosebud but the idea of AccyWeb being supporters of the BNP probably got people on the defensive. We've just had one person hell bent on winding the members up into a frenzy and it probably began to look a little like deja vu.

WillowTheWhisp · 29-06-2007, 22:36

What's Combat 18 anyway?

harwood red · 29-06-2007, 22:36

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

look a little like deja vu.

same here

Rosebud · 29-06-2007, 22:40

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

I wouldn't really know about that, as I've never been in any "BNP, National Front, Combat 18 favoured haunts". However, I would suggest that when most pubs display the Union Flag, it is a simple gesture of national allegiance...nothing more, nothing less.

Rubbish!

Genuinely not trying to purposely wind anyone up but genuinely think the above comment is naieve. Also I get that you are suggesting that as I know what the inside of a racist haunt looks like I must patronise these establishments. In reality I dont but I do read quite a lot and watch TV as well and as a result know the preferred decor of these places.
I also know what a dinosaur looks like but have never actually seen one.

Stanaccy · 29-06-2007, 22:41

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

What's Combat 18 anyway?

The "paramilitary" wing of the BNP their name is derived from the initila letters of Adolf Hitler (A being the first letter of the alphabet H being the 8th)

Actually I have been in a Nazi pub in Croydon and at the time didn't notice any union flags in evidence (Garinda if you are reading this thread it was the Ship) I only realized when I got to the bar I was being seriously stared at and suddenly noticed that it was because of my (now not then) ex wife who is black.

I then noticed a couple of members of Skrewdriver at the bar.

I quickly made an exit.

Rosebud · 29-06-2007, 22:43

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Sorry Rosebud but the idea of AccyWeb being supporters of the BNP probably got people on the defensive. We've just had one person hell bent on winding the members up into a frenzy and it probably began to look a little like deja vu.

Thanks for the explanation- I truly am not intending to stir things for the sake of it but do have an opinion on the subject.
Combat 18 is an ultra right wing facist group opeartyional across Britain who utilise extreme violence on a regular basis to demonstrate their abhorrent viewpoint.

Wynonie Harris · 29-06-2007, 22:43

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Originally Posted by Rosebud

Rubbish!

Genuinely not trying to purposely wind anyone up but genuinely think the above comment is naieve. Also I get that you are suggesting that as I know what the inside of a racist haunt looks like I must patronise these establishments. In reality I dont but I do read quite a lot and watch TV as well and as a result know the preferred decor of these places.
I also know what a dinosaur looks like but have never actually seen one.

Hmmmm...can't make my mind up about you, Rosebud. Whether you're a troll or just an out-and-out moron. What does the panel think?

WillowTheWhisp · 29-06-2007, 22:44

What's wrong with the possibility that Accyites of all shades and ethnicities might not actually be proud of being Accyites and British anyway? I have some brown skinned friends who are quite proud of their Britishness.

WillowTheWhisp · 29-06-2007, 22:45

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Originally Posted by Rosebud

Combat 18 is an ultra right wing facist group opeartyional across Britain who utilise extreme violence on a regular basis to demonstrate their abhorrent viewpoint.

Oh that'll be Tealeaf when he's making one of his anti-cat posts then.

cashman · 29-06-2007, 22:46

well this kids very suspicious.

Neil · 29-06-2007, 22:47

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Originally Posted by harwood red

I know I had my union jack knickers on that night

It makes a change for you to be wearing any

Rosebud · 29-06-2007, 22:47

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Hmmmm...can't make my mind up about you, Rosebud. Whether you're a troll or just an out-and-out moron. What does the panel think?

Don't undertsand the word 'troll' in this context please explain. I do however understand the 'out and out moron' comment- why the need to be offensive and aggressive? Is debate or discussion not achievable in a more restrained manner?

harwood red · 29-06-2007, 22:50

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Originally Posted by Neil

It makes a change for you to be wearing any

Oh yeah and as if you would be lucky enough to know

Rosebud · 29-06-2007, 22:50

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

What's wrong with the possibility that Accyites of all shades and ethnicities might not actually be proud of being Accyites and British anyway? I have some brown skinned friends who are quite proud of their Britishness.

Nothing wrong with that at all of course not.
Just making a point about the manner in which the principle symbol of 'Britishness' has been hijacked by the far right.