Aged 12 And Looking After the Family

[lancsdave]

In a way it's a shame they had to highlight the blind people for this programme. There are plenty of able bodied and sighted people who look after their kids the same way

[flashy]

Originally Posted by katex

Did they interview the Social Services ? What did they have to say ? Sure they must be involved somewhere along the line , and possibly the NSPCC ?

Sorry, Flashy just read your previous thread properly .... bigger house,eh ? Well, that must solve everything, more chance of the toddlers wandering off out of sight (sorry, didn't mean that to be literally)

they only had a 3 bedroomed house kate, it was in a real state

[katex]

Originally Posted by chav1

social services dont take iinterviews they only take children

strange however that these people can keep their children in squalor yet only last year a couple who were slightly backward and had their child in good health etc had their child taken away

Well, one wouldn't want these children to be taken and separated, but surely more help could be given. They should be obliged to be interviewed as they are servants of us all, and answerable.

[grego]

I didn't see the programme but on the face of it agree that these people should not have been allowed to have children if they are not capable of looking after them. What a shame for the children especially the older ones who have been given the responsibility like it or not, surely social services should step in.

[katex]

Originally Posted by lancsdave

In a way it's a shame they had to highlight the blind people for this programme. There are plenty of able bodied and sighted people who look after their kids the same way

Of course there are lancsdave, but you did say 'look after', even though badly, but that is another issue and throwing in a red herring, but hopefully this extreme case may help to highlight other similar, less extreme cases.

[West Ender]

I only saw a little of last night's programme but the woman came across as completely stupid and selfish. She had no idea of trying to help herself or do anything for herself and she just looked on her children as insurance for her future. She had no interest in their welfare whatsoever and just left the little ones to rot until the older ones came home. She and her husband didn't talk to them or play with them, they didn't even change nappies, not that difficult even if you can't see provided you have everything in order. The couple didn't seem to have much difficulty finding their cigarettes and beer cans.

Social Services jumped in and took well cared for children from their homes when ridiculous allegations of Satanic rites were made, some years ago, but they leave little ones in a home like that. It defies common sense.

[shillelagh]

I didnt watch it i went out and forgot to tape it and i did want to watch it. Its hard being a carer and like i've said before i dont know how kids can do it especially with school and all that entails.

[Tinkerbelle]

Originally Posted by West Ender

I only saw a little of last night's programme but the woman came across as completely stupid and selfish.

I didn't see any of the programme but from what I've read in this thread they sound completely stupid and selfish!

Hopefully these poor little sweethearts deprived of their childhood get their revenge by shoving them in Britains Worst Nursing Home when they're elderly!

Who looked after the younger ones while the older ones went to school? They were allowed to attend school weren't they??

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by grego

I didn't see the programme but on the face of it agree that these people should not have been allowed to have children if they are not capable of looking after them. What a shame for the children especially the older ones who have been given the responsibility like it or not, surely social services should step in.

This thread started with with sympathy for the family but is steadily heading to parent bashing...from what I saw of the programme the kids were not badly behaved and not out causing trouble.. unlike some kids with able bodied parents who are allowed to run riot.
A film crew must have been with this family for days and the social services must be monitoring the situation. Maybe these families should have a home help from the social.. but then people would be on here moaning about paying extra tax!
Does anyone think it would be better for the kids to be seperated from thier parents, seperated from thier brothers and sisters,taken to homes were child abuse is not unknown?

Grego.. when you say "these people should not have been allowed to have children" what do you actually mean?

[chav1]

well they could have taken the children away at birth like they do from some able bodied people who are deemed not fit or able to bring up children

just an option but surely when a blid disabled couple turn up at teh doctors pregnant some action one way or another wether it be help or taking the kids away should have begun

interestingly enough the couple had several previous attempts at conception but only got success on the 8th attempt after recieving a guide dog which was able to bark " up a bit "

[Mancie]

So Chav.. they turn up at the doc's ... because some able bodied skaghead pros and her pimp have the baby taken away at birth (I'm not sure that happens)..these people should also have their kids taken away.. two wrongs don't make a right.. but then they do in your.."bash em smash em kill em all world" you seem to live in.

from what I've heard you are in no position to bring guide dogs or any other dog into the argument )

[chav1]

these people are blind and disabled and stated that they wanted more kids to help out , this alone appeard that they want a child labour camp and not a family so yes i think teh children should have been taken away at birth and given a chance to lead a better life than cleaning up after 2 selfish people

ps:

the dog in teh animal sex clip i posted shots from in the 18 section had not been trained to be a guide dog it had been trained in other areas like cunnilingus for example

so the next time a labridor licks your hand ask your self if it is a trained seeing dog or just licking your hand because you are a ( well we share similar humour and i cant use stars so you should be able to figue ths 4 letter word out)

[Mancie]

Taken away at birth and given a chance to end up cleaning for a living?.. nice ..the eldest girl was doing well at school.. Chav..a simple questionaire (which I think you should be legally required to answer as an obvious extremist)

should invalids(blind,deaf,immobile..) be exempt from having children
if yes..should invalids be sterolised
should people who may carry some uncontrolable desease be sterolised?

I suspect its a YES chav
what next?... blonde hair blue eyes?

Chav.. you are one Nazi..and his dog!

[chav1]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Taken away at birth and given a chance to end up cleaning for a living?.. nice ..the eldest girl was doing well at school.. Chav..a simple questionaire (which I think you should be legally required to answer as an obvious extremist)

should invalids(blind,deaf,immobile..) be exempt from having children
if yes..should invalids be sterolised
should people who may carry some uncontrolable desease be sterolised?

I suspect its a YES chav
what next?... blonde hair blue eyes?

Chav.. you are one Nazi..and his dog!

err read my post again , i said they should have been taken away at birth to save them from having to clean up after their selfish parents

if your going to come onto a forum trying to look clever throwing names about at least get your facts right.

unless of course when you said "Taken away at birth and given a chance to end up cleaning for a living?.. nice" you actualy think that all people adopted or brought up in foster care are only fit for cleaning jobs?


saint marys genetic clinic are currently doing tests to see if stupidity is genetic , just a thought if your passing that way

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by chav1

if your going to come onto a forum trying to look clever throwing names about at least get your facts right.

If I'm going to come onto a forum looking clever... sorry mate..you have got that stitched up sewn and bundled..trying to look clever.. have you seen some of your posts? Chav 1.. the bloke that gets away with all the borderline stuff... ha ha its all a laugh (of course you have)... it's a wonder garinda ain't taken you to a side room and kicked your head in.(in the name of art)